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[โ€“] [email protected] 151 points 6 months ago (8 children)

Web search on the start menu.

๐Ÿคฎ

[โ€“] [email protected] 75 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Web in the search, AI in the search, personal assistant in your files, things in your things that you don't want, didn't ask for and are struggling to extract.

[โ€“] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

things in your things that you donโ€™t want, didnโ€™t ask for and are struggling to extract.

We have a word for these. It's called "parasites."

[โ€“] [email protected] 53 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

I wouldn't mind that as an optional function, having a single global search field that brings up whatever you are looking for seems really convenient on paper.

Of course not the way msoft does it, where you never get the thing you want unless you are being really precise (like searching for appdata only yielding web results until you specifically type %APPDATA%).

[โ€“] [email protected] 52 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Its even worse than that. It is completely unpredictable and just does what it want. When I type in "Vi", the first choice is Visual Studio. It will stay on Visual Studio until I have typed in "Visual Studi". But if I'm a fast typer, and I type in the entirety of "Visual Studio", it opens Visual Studio Code.

So the fastest way to open up Code is to type "VSC". This doesn't work with "VS" for Visual Studio.

I have to type out "Spot" specifically to open Spotify. Typing out Spotify opens edge.

There are also files and programs it cannot find despite having been installed for years, even though I've MANUALLY added the paths to the searched directories.

If anyone of you is on Windows for whatever reason and want your mind blown, try downloading a little program called Everything. It can literally find every single program on your computer as fast as you can type. And it looks up exactly what you type in. It also supports wildcard characters etc. This is the kind of behavior I expect from my computer. Sure, make a shiny frontend for casual users who don't need to see every single file on their system, but please, why do I have to go through third parties to get this experience on an OS that my company paid for, when I can get the same experience out of the box on any free Linux distro?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Also if I could pick my search engine rather than getting one of the shittiest ones rammed down my throat

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[โ€“] [email protected] 98 points 6 months ago
[โ€“] [email protected] 80 points 6 months ago

โ€œHoly Hannah!โ€ Thatโ€™s great

โ€œMontana Banana!โ€ also an acceptable exclamation

[โ€“] [email protected] 74 points 6 months ago (12 children)

Normal people (idiots) would rather spend 4 years of their overall life "hacking" with Windows to avoid 30 minutes learning to use a forward slash.

[โ€“] [email protected] 52 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Meanwhile the entire Internet :
https://example.com/Laura/Epsom

[โ€“] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago (1 children)

https://example.com/Laura/Epsom

Laura Epsom? Is that Lorem Ipsum for the barbaric tribes of Britannia?

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[โ€“] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tfw windows uses forward slashes too. Now let's talk about how *nix is case sensitive because laziness.

But all fall short of God's glory that is Temple OS.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 29 points 6 months ago (2 children)

(Idiots)... Way to roast normal people. Don't know if they will ever recover. The best bit was putting it in brackets.

You are normal people.

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)
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[โ€“] [email protected] 25 points 6 months ago (8 children)

I've spent ways less time editing the windows registry than I've spent trying to fix all the dual monitor bugs with linux.

Windows issues/changes are a 30 second google search away, linux issues often enough require a 1 hour deep dive into multiple forums.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Have you googled Windows issues? Every problem apparently is fixed by running chkdsk or download a "driver updater". And it wasn't exactly good in the past either.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You sound like an (idiot); you as an individual are not defined by your OS of preference of all things, and by all means, you are one of the normals.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 59 points 6 months ago (9 children)

One thing Linux needs to do is change the perception of how hard everything is compared to Windows. Some things are extremely less difficult on Linux.

[โ€“] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Both OS are hard if you don't know how to use them.

Both OS are easy if you know how to use them.

Linux's problem is fragmentation. There's not a single OS that many people are familiar with like Windows. Instead there's hundreds of different distros that all function in a variety of different ways. Even if a person learns to do something on Mint or Ubuntu, they will be completely lost trying to do the same thing on Fedora or Arch.

[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (6 children)

hundreds of different distros

And out of those "hundreds" only a handful of them are actually popular and progressing innovation...

As someone who's distro hopped across a wide verity of distros, the fundamentals are more less the same across all of them. Just go with a popular distro with good documentation and you'll be fine. If you've learned enough from mint to feel comfortable tackling Arch Linux, then the documention (e.g. ArchWiki) will be your strongest asset.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Definitely this. I have been eyeballing Linux for years, always intimidated by the CLI and the notion that everything you try to do on Linux requires user research and work first.

Now I finally made the switch a couple days ago, and while it took a bit of tinkering and googling here and there I am amazed how simple, even way simpler than on windows, the experience for a an average user is, particularly with the very beginner friendly distro I went with (bazzite/gnome).

It just works right out the box for 90% of whatever I want to do, configuring it is simply flipping some switches in the software and extension apps. Feels more like setting up a new smartphone than a PC. I didn't even have to mess with the CLI all that much, perhaps half a dozen times so far, and each time i followed specific steps in a guide or tutorial, or tried out some basic things like file search.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (9 children)

Problem is is that is that too many people insist on doing things the Windows way and they get frustrated because of it. For example, instead of going to the software center, they choose to download their programs from a website, even though that's not how you're supposed to do it most of the time. They'll also spend hours trying to get Windows only programs to run, when there are alternatives available that work just as well.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (4 children)

I always show people single click printer setups.

Linux (and sometimes Android) is the only platform printers actually work reliably.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 38 points 6 months ago

To be fair, comparing terminal to the registry is not comparing apples to apples. The registry is more like a complicated config file full of barely documented options. Still miserable to work in, but that's beside the point.

The terminal equivalent to windows is Powershell which id say is much more favorable.

[โ€“] [email protected] 37 points 6 months ago (10 children)

That's even more complicated than half the stuff normal users on Linux do

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[โ€“] [email protected] 31 points 6 months ago (4 children)

What if I told you you can create and set a registry entry with a single line of powershell

[โ€“] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (3 children)

What if I told you I'd rather bash my skull in than use powershell.

[โ€“] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago (3 children)

That's ok too. If you're not comfortable in the cli you can switch to a more gui focused windows distro. Most of the same functionality is there.

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
Invoke-Command -Sick-Burn $user

Write-Output "Nice"
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[โ€“] [email protected] 28 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Wait, this is actually a good tip lol

[โ€“] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I even have to tell stupid windows to interpret the bios clock as UTC.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 23 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Pay no attention to gconf, dconf, GSettings, or whatever else there is.

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[โ€“] PoolloverNathan 20 points 6 months ago (20 children)

LiNuX uSeR iNsTaLlInG A BrOwSeR haha

yeah uh...

  • sudo apt install firefox
  • sudo xbps-install firefox
  • sudo pacman -Syu firefox
  • nix-env -iA firefox
[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago

Bro I think you got too many package managers in your setup. Prob this is gonna cause conflicts.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (4 children)

Funny enough, the regedit of my work PC was already there with the value set (seems like I already did that a few weeks ago)...

Startmenu is still slower than my personal Linux machine.

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[โ€“] the_artic_one 17 points 6 months ago (7 children)

Voidtools "Everything" is how we mimic a fraction of your power thank-you-very-much.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago

Literally a KDE setting. In the GUI.

And nobody needs that, otherwise there would be a plasmoid.

[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (6 children)

I mean, fucking with the registry was always a thing in windows

[โ€“] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Not always.

In other news, I feel old.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well, sure, but this has a user hostile motive behind it.

Microsoft could have offered a right-click/disable internet search to facilitate. However, they wanted people to just give up and soak in start-menu driven internet action, so they buried the option in an obscure registry key.

The key is the start menu search to internet really makes the experience suck, as you try to type something on local system and some internet result gets prioritized, and by nature of the internet search, the internet search is unpredictable, so the search you do every day that usually opens up what you expect suddenly starts going to some internet site in edge.

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[โ€“] whats_all_this_then 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Wtf windows search is so much snappier now!!!!

Thank you!

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[โ€“] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The other day I was trying to disable Ubuntu Pro stuff and the way to do it reminded me of Windows. Once I get my media backed up I'm switching to another distro, just not sure what one yet.

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[โ€“] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Why are we even comparing the terminal with registry? What is registry mimicking from Linux?

[โ€“] [email protected] 14 points 6 months ago (3 children)

In this case, I'd say it's less about how the registry works, and more about how deliberately obnoxious Microsoft makes the experience for the sake of their agenda.

Sure if you have to deal with the registry at all, it's "hard" but that's casting stones from a glass house as dconf can be just as hard, and then you have the odd occasion where someone suggests dbus-send, which certainly doesn't have room to mock registry handling as hard. The point is that most people never have to touch dconf/dbus directly to do what they want, and in Microsoft some things are deliberately obscure due to user hostile intentions.

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