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[–] [email protected] 173 points 6 months ago (3 children)

And the 4 police officers on the scene who lied about the incident will be dismissed and charged with lying to the police? Noo? Noo?

The fact the driver was charged means the police are lying systematically

[–] [email protected] 50 points 6 months ago

They investigated themselves, no one lied, they just had amnesia during those 5 seconds.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 6 months ago (1 children)

ACAB but I wouldn't put too much weight in the other officers intentionally lying. The incident happened so fast I'd assume 3 of the 4 didnt even catch it from the right angle and are just going off of what Dumbo says happened.

Cancan Dan should go to prison for the same sentence as the crime he falsely accused the driver of.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Isn’t that a lie, if they claimed they witnessed it, just to back up what another guy said? By corroborating a lie, they contributed to false charges which could have sent someone to jail, ruined his life.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I think human memory and recollection is too inconsistent to apply that label fairly.

If the cops had been around the corner when it happened and then claimed they saw it then you are right, they should face equal consequences for lying.

But if they were near enough (and the video shows some of them? Than a combination of the sounds and movement and immediate aftermath can and does totally shift your perception of reality.

Quick story: I was at work and I heard someone say something angry behind me. I turned around and "Bob" suddenly shoved "Alex". Alex shoved back and they started screaming. I got in between and broke it up, facing Bob and basically keeping him from continuing after Alex. The bosses showed up and Bob started going off screaming about how his was gonna kick Alex's ass and let's go outside and blah bla blah he shoved me!

I barked at him "You shoved Alex first you need to calm down!"

And he stopped dead and looked at me. "FUCK YOU YOU LIAR." And a rant about how I was best friends with Alex (I wasn't, but sure did like him more than Bob) and I would like to get him fired ect ect.

Now Bob was (probably is) an asshole. He ended up getting fired for berating a coworker and then coming to blows with a supervisor who told him to knock it off.

But after I dismissed his accusations and moved on with my day, I started to think about what happened.

I didn't see anything before I turned around. But I did hear a yell, like a yelp... Like someone being hit..

So I was 100% convinced of what happened, until I gave it some deep thought much later. If Alex had have stepped up and said "yeah! That's what happened!" I don't think I would have ever second guessed it, I would have put my career and reputation on the line...

Anyways, they may be fully lying and colluding, but there is a non-zeeo chance they "remembered" it like the victim claims.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Okay people, I gotta just keep saying this until it sticks.

Multiple Os in a word sound like a long U, not a long O. This means unless you’re heading into another consonant, you’re not saying “Go” any more you’re saying “goo”.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

What's your alternative to convey the meaning that everyone understood already?

[–] [email protected] 102 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Breaks my heart thinking about all the innocent victims that aren't lucky enough to be exonerated like this :/

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Yes. This is like opening a random door and discovering an axe murder in progress. It makes you wonder what’s going on behind all the doors that didn’t get opened.

One of the worst states a society can be in is one where it seems normal on the surface, but there’s massive hidden injustice happening under the surface. With something like the Battle of Britain, they truly were all in it together. But with the way our policing system works, people are getting horribly treated and their stories just aren’t known.

A society based on human sacrifice is invalid. If there’s a monster eating people, we need to all be aware of it. Currently the monster is eating people and getting away with it, because we have a cultural assumption that anyone talking about the monster is to be avoided and shunned.

It’s horror.

[–] [email protected] 71 points 6 months ago (2 children)

So.. filing a false police report? That cannot be qualified immunity.. right?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 6 months ago

If straight up planned murder is under qualified immunity, then why would they care about a false police report?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Believe it or not... no jail

[–] [email protected] 64 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It sucks that they turned this into a story about how great mass surveillance is

[–] [email protected] 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In fairness, the mass surveillance is just more evenly distributed when civilian dashcams are proliferated.

[–] [email protected] 42 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'm a lot more ok with many people having non internet connected dashcams than one corporation having continuous access to a giant network of cameras

[–] [email protected] 30 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Surveillance apologists like to make the argument that "in public you have no expectation of privacy." But what they don't seem to understand is that having centralized networks of cameras (and especially ones hooked up to things like facial recognition databases) creates a whole new third level that goes beyond merely "in public" and instead becomes a panopticon.

"In public" a person might remember seeing you at a certain time and location, but that doesn't mean they can trace back your whole location history along with that of everyone who was ever near you at some point along it and feed it into a computer looking for suspicious patterns. When somebody tries to follow you closely enough to do that, we call it "stalking" and it's a crime.

But somehow once thing "X" becomes "X, but with a computer" lawmakers think it's magic or some shit and previously-criminal stuff suddenly becomes A-OK! So now everybody is being criminally stalked by Ring (i.e. Amazon), Nest (i.e. Google), etc., and too many people are too computer-illiterate to even begin to grasp what a massive problem that is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Flock "Safety"

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

The reason it doesn’t seem like a problem isn’t just ignorance, but also form factor. If someone were to start putting stickers that look like staring eyes on ring cameras, it might drive the point home more viscerally.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Mass surveillance is here to stay, but the fun part is we can mass surveillance right back.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago

Still not ok, when there is no downside for lying on a police report. Not everyone will be lucky enough to get dashcam footage contradicting four police offices conspiring to lie

[–] [email protected] 45 points 6 months ago

ACAB

Nationality matters not

[–] stembolts 32 points 6 months ago

Cops kill.
Cops lie.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 6 months ago

Hopefully that leg break was a severe one.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

For TWO WEEKS

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (3 children)

From the preview tab, looks like it might be the cop who kicked a moving car and broke his leg? I won't watch the ad YT is shoving at me and don't care enough to download the video using a workaround. Either way, fuck cops.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

It’s actually a brutal leg break…

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Yeah don’t watch. I’m usually fine with gore videos but this leg break is something I feel. I didn’t need that footage rattling around in my brain

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I like your style, Comrade!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

"real time conviction"

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Is it me or does the legal analyst at 1:25 in the video bear an uncanny resemblance to John Waters?