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Interested in getting a feel for what people may be likely to do IF reddit reverses their decision regarding API access, or reduces access fees to a reasonable level and 3rd party apps remain sustainable.

While I know the chances of this are extreeeemely slim, until 1st July there is an ever so slight chance this could still happen.

From my perspective, the community harm is done, and those who have left prior to July 1 have left due to principles, not because their app stopped working. As such, I'd be inclined to think most of those migrators would stay here in the fediverse.

But would we see a mass exodus back to reddit if the changes were undone? It's easy to say no, but if it went back to operations as relatively normal, it may be easy to justify going back for some users.

I'd like to think I wouldn't go back. I've deleted content and account from reddit. I'll be happy here so long as there is enough userbase for some discussion.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I really have no choice. I’m primarily a mobile user via 3rd party app because their native app sucks in so many different ways. In fact, I replied to this very thread from my phone.

When the API gets cut off, I get cut off because I don’t—nor won’t—live in front of my computer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I don't see that a reversal at this point would be any different to Twitter suddenly becoming usable again. The damage has already been done, it can't be reversed. Even with a pinky swear that Reddit will never pull this shit again, the trust is gone. Just like with Twitter - Elon could f*** off to Mars tomorrow, but the next person to step in and run Twitter could be just as bad, or worse. And both companies can implement any changes they like at any time with zero worry about what happens to the users. Thus - it's the wake-up call we all needed, that someone else's platform is really someone else's platform - regardless of how long we have had a home there. It's time for own platform, a community run platform.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I think I'll mostly be staying here. But there're a few subreddits that I might check from time to time. But if those communities move elsewhere then there's a chance that I would abandon Reddit entirely.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Can Reddit also un-slander the 3pa devs?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I didn't leave reddit because of the API changes. I left reddit because they're treating their userbase and their volunteer moderators that keep the community clean to their standards for them like absolute shit

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I just landed here, so time will tell. I think a lot of damage has been done and most of it by the toxic way spez has dealt with this. He’d have to step down to really make progress in healing things. I like the idea of a decentralized community that one person can’t fuck up. So, I want to give this an honest try.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

To be perfectly honest - I’ll likely stay here for content that typically ends up in large subs. Programming, World News, Politics, Ask _? That’s pretty well covered here.

But I’d use my third party app of choice to check in on subs that haven’t really taken off here yet. I haven’t had a decent conversation about One Piece yet on this platform. The Colts magazine equally dead. Game specific magazines and conversations are not very active here.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Keep on with not using reddit.

They can pound sand for all I care.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The damage is done. The administration at Reddit has shown they will do whatever it takes to stamp out dissent... except for actually listen to the users.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'm done with reddit. It has become too big and has accumulated too much dead weight.

The AI will finish the job as I predict that Reddit will transform into an astroturfing hub. ( /m/astroturfing is open btw)

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'll stay here for sure, just need to find the courage to delete my account for good. Ten cent investment never agreed with me anyway.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Bridges got burned. Not possible for myself to go back at this point.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

the damage is done, why support a company that treats their userbase so disrespectfully?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Reddit was unusable way before the last scandal. Main problems being arbitrary, opaque moderation, astroturfing, low-effort posts, bots, general meanness and negativity.
It got to the point where it felt like you were more likely to interact with a bot or a propagandist than a normal human being.
Reddit is an advertising platform masquerading as social media.
It'll probably happen here too, but it might take a while.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Whether I go back to reddit is entirely dependent on how Lemmy/kbin do. If they remain active I see no reason to switch back, but if they don’t then I won’t have much choice as I don’t know of any other alternatives

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Imagine we're at the point where the Titanic has split in two, and the remaining portion is held afloat by trapped air. You can patch the hole made by the iceberg, but it probably won't change my plans too much.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m in the process of abandoning my Reddit account. I abandoned my Twitter a little while before the Muskening and once it became finalized I really didn’t want to go back, but I kind of regret not saving more memes/screenshots so I’m making sure to actually archive things this time.

I don’t want to go back. The fediverse has everything and more; I would like to think that we can keep up this wonderful sense of community here. Meanwhile the toxicity on Reddit has gotten even worse.

It’s like having the opportunity to have an amicable separation from a toxic ex.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Im using reddit to look at boobs, fediverse for everything else.
When the reddit boobs dry up, ill look elsewhere.

I figure it cant hurt if its purely NSFW. They dont make ad revenue from it, I get to see boobs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I like the fediverse but the centralised nature of reddit is much less confusing. Really I would probably see where the communities are and stay wherever is most convenient. If Reddit did undo their changes then the chances are a few communities might move back to reddit or stay there, and the app devs may also cancel plans to make other fediverse clients, so it would be a tricky decision for me in my mind.

Reddit is the community more than it is the site in my mind.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The real win is having a viable place that people can go instead of Reddit, to force Reddit to compete and improve itself in general. (or have a place people can go if Reddit ultimately shuts down)

To that end, I would stay right here, and then someday if Reddit improves enough, maybe consider using both.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Continue to use kbin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'm new enough to not have experienced old.reddit so most of my experiences are from the new interface on computer. With that said, the new reddit is crap.

  1. It is sooooo slow. My computer isn't lacking by any means, but infinity on my old pixel phone is still much faster. I don't understand how this is even possible.

  2. The comment box is broken. I can't tell how many times the comment box malfunctioned either in formatting or in other ways after I copy pasted text into it. If copying text makes things buggy, then something is wrong. Not to mention that less frequently, I've clicked on submit after writing a long post just to have it vanish into thin air.

  3. I'm with the moderators for the API issue, but my experiences with moderation there wasn't the best. Inconsistency between different mods, etc. That is a thankless job for sure, and the same problems could come up here or lemmy or anywhere else as the communities grow, but here's hoping that we learn from past mistakes.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'll probably go back from time to time to:

  1. Demonstrate that them reversing course wasn't for naught
  2. Steal content to post here to help foster communities/magazines until the next idiotic decision that drives users away

Ultimately, this is my new home. But I'm not against swiping content to furnish it with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

In a world where Steve Huffman has called reddit's data "his data to sell", it has become abundantly clear that he has absolutely no respect for the fact that it is his users and moderators that create the community -- all that he and the admins do is create a system whereby the community can create and curate content. Without users, he has a big expensive and empty server.

It's not "his data", it's the community's data. The fact that he's acting like he owns all of it pretty much sums up why I overwrote and deleted all of my content on reddit, and it is precisely why I will never provide free content for that website ever again.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I won’t return to Reddit. In my case the bridge is burned.

I deleted all my comments/posts and will only keep my account in case you need one sometime in the future to read stuff. Otherwise it will be used to block my old username.

Except for reading specific stuff when I’m googling for solutions I’m not going to use Reddit anymore. Since the blackout the number of posts increased so heavily that I don’t experience much difference to Reddit. Except one thing: The people here are much less toxic!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

No Reddit has been getting worse for the past few years already. If they were to reverse the decision now, it would probably only be temporary anyway, until they find a new way to increase monetization.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Reddit needs more revenue. They're not profitable, and never have been. The only means they have for getting that revenue is manipulating me so that I watch more ads, or selling my content to others without my explicit consent.

Which means I'm done with Reddit, and for-profit social media, forever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Honestly, I would probably be using both, in that case. The Threadiverse feels a lot like the early days of Reddit and I would love to be part of it and see it grow up. Assuming this keeps expanding, it's too late for me to go back to exclusively using Reddit at this point. Giga brain Mr. Huffman made sure of that.

However, there are numerous great communities at Reddit that haven't found a place here yet. Especially many of the smaller subs that were already very niche as it is, and that one probably won't not find anywhere else anytime soon.

I'm already regularly using multiple different sites as it is. Both larger international ones, as well as smaller local blogs and forums. I don't personally see an issue by itself to keep both Reddit and Kbin on that list.

Hopefully, we will see entirely new communities pop up and grow in the Threadiverse. That is, communities that aren't just different flavours of "Reddit sucks". Not saying it's not entertaining, but I think we need to broaden the scope a bit going forward. :)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Staying right where I am.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I deleted my account on Reddit because their handling of the situation didn’t really inspire confidence in the site’s future 🤷‍♂️I won’t be going back regardless.

Fediverse is a neat network model of integration of communities in the same way that integration happens in real life.

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