Reddit Migration

Its not like this was the first shitty thing that Reddit have done. Its a platform that has been getting progressively worse for years. I will definitely stay here.

I'll stay here, I don't tolerate being treated like sh*it as they did, it's totally unacceptable. Even if they apologized, they shown their true colors, we know they would be lying.

I came here a couple of weeks ago and since then I did my best to be involved in lemmy communities so as to not miss reddit, and you know what? It worked :)

I'm not deleting my account because I want my data first (sent a GDPR request), but I don't really care anymore about what they do, nor I care about reddit as a platform, engagement here is much higher quality.

Still following news because it's entertaining, I love how the community got creative with the protest.

For me, it's not just that they screwed up the API changes, it's that they've repeatedly kept doubling down since then.

It's also ... I keep thinking back to Ellen Pao. They brought her in knowing that they wanted her to get rid of FPH and Victoria, knowing that at least the FPH thing was going to make her a target of the misogynistic GamerGate haters and bringing in a woman anyway, and they deliberately and repeatedly refused to give her any public support. It was completely reprehensible, and they cheerfully scapegoated her and kicked her to the curb when it was done.

As bad as that was, I also see elements of the same thing happening here, where this is a highly unpopular change, and there's no one else from reddit speaking up to support spez. I think they're going to have him force through the changes and then kick him to the curb like they did Ellen. They're not going to reverse any of the changes - it's what they want, after all, but they're going to let spez take all the heat and go on their merry way completely unphased.

To be completely honest, I think spez deserves this: his job as CEO is to have vision, manage public relations, and handle crises, and he's miserably failed at all of those. He misunderstood reddit's most valuable assets (it's commentary and the large group of people contributing and moderating the site for free), and he literally paid the API fees for some very profitable and potentially profitable companies to suck every piece of data from reddit; then he publicly targeted small publishers who enhance reddit instead of presenting them as collateral damage of the AI wars (I suspect to avoid bringing attention to his incredible lack of vision in letting everyone freely harvest data for their own lucrative products). And he's clearly failing in the PR and managing crises front as well. But I truly believe that everyone at reddit is perfectly happy to let spez do this thing that they want done, and then they'll throw him away when it's done in an attempt to appease the users.

Anyway, your question is "what will I do if reddit undoes the API changes". Given my beliefs, I simply don't see how I could possibly trust reddit management ever again. And trust is a really big thing with me; I don't think I could ever go back.

Unless you're reddit management, here to gauge user temperament, in which case I will totally return if the API changes are undone, yes, of course I will, just trust me!

I don't want to go back. I miss my subreddit - hell let's be honest, I miss /Reddit/ - but... Seeing how spez has acted and treated... /everyone/...

Like... We used the site, we provided the content, and the conversations, and the knowledge, the info, the jokes, the memes... That was all us. And it's like... I dunno he wants to eat his cake and have it to. He wants us there both for the content we provide as well as to monetize us and in a way I get it but it's like... ... When reddit was just the background... "the background" you didn't really think about it so much, you know? But it's like when Elon took over Twitter suddenly it's not just "Twitter" in the background it's now "Elon musks Twitter" and it's front and center and sleezy and scuzzy and you just want to not be a part of it anymore.

That feels like reddit now. Like how spez has been acting just makes it all feel dirty and horrible.

And I /miss/ reddit, I miss my subreddits. I miss googling any random idea and aphending reddit to the end of it and not even thinking about if it would show up on there because you just knew it would. Like it wasn't even a question... And I /miss/ that. So much. ... But it's like... /tainted/ now. I hate seeing reddit results from Google searches now.

And learning about how federation works reminds me of reading shadow run back in the day and how the matrix worked there with little nodes of info all talking to each other. In a way, then, the fediverse, to /me/, feels like the future...

So I'm willing to stay here and wait for it to grow and comment a little more than I ever did on reddit. Because I don't want to go back. And I don't think we should.

Nothing will change my decision now. The trust is permanently broken and the damage is irreversible.

They've shown that they won't hesitate to kick out mods at a whim even when it goes against the community's wishes. Even if the API changes are walked back, Spez resigns and the company apologises, that's no longer enough to undo what they've destroyed. Reddit is done.

I was originally going to simply delete my Reddit account on the 30th. After seeing the farce unravel, I'm also going to nuke all content I've created on that platform at the same time. Scorched earth seems to be the only answer now and it's the least I can do after the continued disrespect they've shown to their users, mods and especially the third party app devs. They're nothing without the communities and the content that they've produced.

Lmao even if it weren't just no out of principle, after spez's comments about how Twitter under Elon is a model for Reddit to look to - why would I waste an ounce of energy on such a platform?

Laugh at the fools who believe they won‘t just make the same changes in increments instead. Oh a reasonable level? Let me introduce inflation to you. Now pay more and make us content we can sell serf. That‘s the entire purpose of your existence in the eyes of a corporation.

Meh. I'm staying here. Reddit has been getting worse. The future should be federated, not centralized, so hopefully that stuff Reddit just did has very little chance of happening again.

I think everyone reading this from kbin or lemmy left out of principle, so they should also stay away from reddit out of principle.

There's nothing stopping them from doing it again, or doing something else just as anti-user. It's pretty clear that we can never trust Reddit again.

At this point, I'd be more likely to use facebook or geocities. Or start talking with strangers on a train. Sure, I miss some of my niche communities that didn't make the jump to kbinlemmy - but not enough to go back on my principles.
If a Google search spins out Reddit as a source for a solution, fine. Not making my life harder than I need to. But hanging out, generating data and content? Nope. Done.

Unless they fire their CEO and the whole board and make Reddit a non-profit organization I won't go back. It is absolutely clear that they only care about money and I won't help them with that if they react like dictators.

IT's to late, if u/spez changes his mind he still has the upper hand. he can turn it off at anytime and this shitshow will start all over again. I cut my loses on the 12th and haven't looked back and i'm happy about that. i had a 350k account and hit the frontpage 5x in 6 years. yea it was hard letting go but somebody gotta do it

From my perspective, the community harm is done, and those who have left prior to July 1 have left due to principles, not because their app stopped working.

Exactly this. Spez showed his hand clear as day: he's just another mildly sociopathic CEO that will gladly fuck anyone over to feed his bottom-line. That's dangerous as hell and I don't want my data in his hands.

I'm completely done with Reddit. The damage is already done. I have been much happier here on Lemmy since the 12th, not planning to leaving anytime soon.

Early adapters who has contributed to Reddit would have already emigrated to fediverse the next frontier because they're early adapters.

Unfortunately I am financially depended on reddit rn, like 80% of my sales comes from there so I will continue to post on mechmarket. But I am posting here as well and left links to my kbin and Lemmy on my reddit profile

Does not matter if they revert the changes or not at this point. I found a new home here and will keep using it.
I will still keep my reddit-Account and do the same as with my FB-account: Visit the site once a month to check up on the one or two communities that unfortunately stayed there.

They could abandon their plans, apologize and then give everyone a cute puppy as a sorry, and I still wouldn't go back. Spez and his group of admins have shown their true colors, and it's because of them that I refuse to ever rejoin. Their actions this past week have been downright dictatorial, engaging in doublethink, hyperbole and creating rules when it benefits them despite no prior communication with the communities they've steamrolled by force.

As someone who recently had a 12 year old account, reddit and Spez can go fuck themselves.

I spent the blackout time looking at the alternatives, and reducing the amount of time I spend on this type of browsing.. now I find that kbin has all I need for the smaller amount of browsing I do… it just needs an app with basic features and I will prob never go back to reddit except for stuff that shows up in google searches

Reddit has clearly shown their priorities. If they change the policies now, they only do it for the money, not for the users.

I never really cared that much for the API. I just didn’t like the company and how its CEO behaved, and I truly enjoy watching fediverse taking off so here I am.

Personally, this is the third or so time I’ve looked for viable alternatives to Reddit. Now that I have found one, I intend to stay here.

There are still some Reddit-exclusive communities I might go back to at some point. As this platform matures, I’ll probably try to get others to migrate here.a

For me personally, I won’t delete my account right away but I will nonetheless try to come more and more to lemmy because the problem on Reddit isn’t just a u/spez one but rather a systematical problem. It can reappear again. They showed their true colors.

Imagine if your partner is abusive as fuck and took advantage of you for years, and you managed to go away from them, then they stop being abusive and say they won't be like that again, How can you be sure that they'll stay that way? What keeps them from acting like a total piece of shit again?

I wouldn't care. I am only still using Reddit because of the Ukraine megathread in r/worldnews. As soon as we get something like this going, I leave it completely.

Not going back. I don't like their attitude toward their contributers/users.

They burned that bridge.. No going back.

Unless there is a proper and thorough change of leadership and structures, I can't see myself returning. The API changes and all related problems are a symptom of the current organisation of reddit. Unless more power is given to the users stuff like that will keep happening imo.

Will they? I lost any trust I have with spez and the admins.

I want to avoid enshitification, and enshitification is more or less the ultimate goal of those who own reddit. This isn't the first time they've tried to extract value from the site with utter disregard for users and moderators. If they didn't get their way this time, they'll just try again later. Perhaps more politely or more slowly, but the writing is on the wall. Has been for a while.

I'll be the one to say that: if miraculously they reversed course and undid all of the projected changes by the end of the month, yeah I'd keep using Reddit. I didn't really leave on principle. I left because I heard my preferred format for accessing the site was going away, and I started looking into alternatives.

As long as I had RIF on mobile and Old Reddit with RES on desktop, I would have stayed there because the population is there.

But with all that being said, Old Reddit was slowly getting buggier and more and more users were cluttering discussions with asides about features that were completely absent on Old Reddit, so I was ready for a change. And with that being the case, in the extremely likely event that the third-party apps actually die at the end of the month, I'll see that as a welcome sign to continue giving this place a chance instead.

I think I'll mostly be staying here. But there're a few subreddits that I might check from time to time. But if those communities move elsewhere then there's a chance that I would abandon Reddit entirely.

Can Reddit also un-slander the 3pa devs?

The damage is done and the reddit project has failed. Reddit wil die the slow death of the abandoned, slowly losing relvance over time.

I think many reddit users have been curious about the fedverae, but nor ready to move. Or ready to put in the effort to learn. This certainly describes me. Reddit's actions were the push I needed.

So now we build something new and exciting. Reddit will just become the place we talk about in the greybeard threads a few years from now. That site we used to know.

Why would I do anything? It's more about the admins' behavior than about the API changes at this point. Even if they undo the API changes, they can't undo the last week of assholery.