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[pre-noob] What's the process for migrating from, in my case, Alexa, Smart Life to Home Assistant? (reddthat.com)

submitted 6 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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Hello all,

What do I actually do when I finally have a running instance (of containerised HA on a Raspberry Pi)? Delete all the toys from Alexa and Smart Life and start again in Home Assistant?

Is deleting everything the intelligent way to go rather than trying to transition?

My Google-foo is failing I did try to find an answer in Lemmy/Reddit/HA. Apologies if I miss an obvious place.

Thank-you in advance.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Smart Life is just another name for Tuya. I started with a bunch of Tuya devices and actually used Smart Life as my app.

There are Home Assistant addons that support Tuya. I can't remember because I'm much further down the path now, but it should be as simple as signing in to the addons with your Smart Life credentials. It may be a little harder in that you may have to pair them to another app first, but same principle.

This is assuming of course that you're talking WiFi devices. If you're on ZigBee then it may be even easier, pairing your hub to Home Assistant.

Either way, Home Assistant will show you a new way.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

[help me out please: add-ons are the Home Assistant thing that you can't use with Home Assistant in a container? Extensions are the Home Assistant add-on that you can .. ?]

Almost everything is WiFi, I can't remember the thing that isn't.

I'm really looking forward to Home Assistant; I have to learn to use containers first.

Thank-you most kindly for your imputus. Very well received. 😁

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Not extensions, it's integrations.

Integrations are things that Home Assistant can integrate and control in your house. They have to be added to Home Assistant by the team that makes Home Assistant. They are built in. However they aren't necessarily made by Home Assistant, they may have started life as a custom component from HACS, which is a third party homebrew collection.

Add-Ons are added functionality for Home Assistant and may be made by the team or other third party contributers. So things like Mosquito MQTT server are added functionality. They are probably not available to the container version because they are basically things you would run alongside in another container, like Node Red.

Integrations should be available to the Container version of HA, but I have to strongly advise you to try to run a "Supervised" version or the Operating System HAOS on a machine like a pi or in a virtual machine.

Having run both (I found a way to run Supervised in Docker, which is basically HAOS) it is just plain easier to deal with the OS when things break because half of it is done for you so you're less likely to break it when you use the OS.

Anyway, I've just checked and there is a Tuya Integration, so you should be fine either way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I went from Smart Life to Home Assistant, so YMMV. But since I had a new coordinator, I just reset my devices and everything paired to the new coordinator. But I would recommend deleting all your old stuff from Smart Life and Alexa first. There's no point in creating potential issues.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Thank-you. Question answered.

Sorry to have bothered everyone!

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Never apologise for asking questions. This community is a learning resource, the more you ask, the more you learn.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

Thank-you ! 😁

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Asking questions is always good, don't worry! Feel free to ask more, heck update the thread and ask questions as you go along if you like.

If you list the devices you want to migrate, I'm sure the community will happily highlight any tips, or which will be the easiest to get you started.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Hey, not op but also bring ready to convert my tuya stuff over to home assistant - what is this new coordinator you mention? Something within HA? Any extra info you could share would be appreciated!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Forgive me if I sound like I'm trying to over simplify things.

So your coordinator is the piece of hardware that listens for Zigbee devices. You typically plug your coordinator into your Pi or NUC on an extension cable and coupled with an add-on in Home Assistant or two, it will convert that to Mosquitto which is a Home Assistant readable format.

When you're going through things, just make as many threads as need be and people will offer advice. In the meantime, this video should help

https://youtu.be/sFSqgiOoPMs

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Ahhh I see - thanks!! 🙏

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

FWIW, you can run all the services simultaneously, so that you can gradually move.

It's what I'm doing. I use echo, home, and HA all at the same time.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

That's very well received. Thank-you.

I have only a small place but being without some items would be disconcerting. Most of my set-up is in Tuya/Smart Life on WiFi.

I'm trying to learn podman/containers to make it possible.

Good luck!