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The Reddit Protest Is Finally Over. Reddit Won.::Reddit corporate claims victory over its disgruntled mods as r/aww, r/pics, and r/videos abandon the "John Oliver rule."

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[–] [email protected] 534 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Bullshit. Nobody, or at least very few people, expected Reddit to revert the changes. A protest can be successful even if it doesn't lead to immediate change. I was here on Lemmy long before the API nonsense happened over at Reddit, and the difference over here is night and day. Lemmy has been around for awhile, but until these last few months it couldn't hold a candle to Reddit in terms of content or activity. Maybe it still can't, but now it has enough users to be viable. Reddit might go on like nothing happened, but in the background a competitor has been born.

[–] [email protected] 192 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I migrated from Reddit. Most of the communities I followed would be hours or days between posts (if they were not private). Everything left was just not pleasant.

I am still fumbling around here but for the most part it is has better discussions and people seem less rude.

I do not regret leaving at this time. I am sure my infinitesimal presence or lack there of does not bother Reddit, but it made me feel better.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Less rude? Fuck you.

/s ❤️

[–] [email protected] 40 points 1 year ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, when I have looked at reddit recently I have observed that mostly the conversation is terrible. There is definitely more content than on Lemmy, but I also like talking to people who speak in entire sentences.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

I think that's a good thing. Less is more, maybe? Dose it really have to be at the scale of reddit? I hope not. Tbh I hope Lemmy becomes bigger for sure but it doesn't need to become the biggest thing. The more alternatives the better!

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago

I deleted 16 years worth of my 'content' across 6 handles and moved to Lemmy/kbin. When I do go back to check on Reddit, it's easy to see that many of the better contributors are gone, the quality of comments and posts, as well as the voting on posts, has greatly diminished. Some subs barely have anything in their 'new' queues.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (6 children)

Thanks. I'm happy for no ads no boys

Edit *no bots

[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Boys are icky and have cooties, it is known

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (5 children)

For sure. I'm using Lemmy much more than reddit. But it sucks because I really loved Reddit and I still use it to some degree. But when Relay stops working I might just stop altogether. I'm not installing their shitty app.

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[–] [email protected] 363 points 1 year ago (7 children)

It was to be expected, but I found Lemmy because of everything that happened, uninstalled Reddit, and now use Mastodon and Lemmy as my social media platforms of choice, so it’s a personal win.

Hopefully, as Lemmy continues to thrive, instances hold up to the pressure of growth and we see an influx of content that made Reddit so valuable to users and Reddit corporate alike.

[–] [email protected] 111 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I also found Lemmy because of Reddit's fiasco, and I think its much better. Being able to have so many instances to get stuff from and forge communities offers a lot more freedom.

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[–] [email protected] 149 points 1 year ago (5 children)

They didn't win, they just didn't fail as badly some had hoped. What was accomplished was spreading out a fair portion of their user base. Maybe not a huge percentage of it, but enough that they don't have the same level of monopoly. People are more aware of other options (and Reddit's flaws), and more will depart in time.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Reddit assisted their competition. Lemmy use doubled.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

Doubled? I see posts with user engagement and it's a wall. Low, low, low, and then boom, astronomical.

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[–] [email protected] 103 points 1 year ago (8 children)

In my eyes Gizmodo is not seeing the big picture. The protest didn't kill reddit, but that was not a realistic outcome to begin with. However it significantly hurt reddit and helped push lemmy as an alternative. Reddit will be around for a long time, until lemmy has more widespread adaptation. It's the beginning of the end for reddit and they'll experience that with a disaster ipo

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Lemmy actually feels like a viable alternative now with apps like Sync upping the experience. Seems like Reddit literally shot itself in the foot by kicking 3rd party apps to competition.

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[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 year ago

Reddit won? Good for them. I'm still not going back.

[–] [email protected] 95 points 1 year ago

Me reading this from lemmy

[–] [email protected] 93 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nobody cares though. The reddit administration has dethroned their own site, it will never gain that back. They're done, even if the site hangs around like a bad smell for a few more years.

[–] [email protected] 55 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Maybe they 'won', but I don't count a pyrrhic victory as winning. It will take years to recover.

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[–] [email protected] 89 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The incredible thing about these articles is that they don't make the slight mention of lemmy.

That one linked is a well written summary of what happened, but it's partial if they don't include the migration that happened, even if it wasn't that big.

[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Not mentioning alternatives definitely feels like a favor for reddit tbh.

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[–] [email protected] 81 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Did they win, though? Everybody who actually cared left. It was clear in June that they were going to do whatever the hell they wanted to regardless of what anyone did or said.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Honestly I feel that this protest just showed me how uninteresting Reddit has become. Outside from small niche communities it's basically equivalent to any other news feed out there be it google news, Twitter or whatever.

Maybe it's not as good as we thought it was.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Me too! I thought it’s be hard to be without reddit, but it turned out to be easier than I thought. And I’ve noticed that lemmy is growing faster than I expected.

[–] [email protected] 70 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m here and I have an ad-free, troll-free, wholesome community to engage with on mostly the same topics I followed on Reddit. I declare myself the winner

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[–] [email protected] 68 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Reddit won against its own users, the very people it relies on to stay relevant. In doing so, it showed a large number of users they don’t need reddit.

As the Lemmy apps get better, more and more people will check out the ad-free reddit. We can get their content without needing their platform, which is huge.

Reddit won the battle, but will it win the war?

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[–] [email protected] 61 points 1 year ago

Reddit won at building its own viable competitors like Kbin, Lemmy, and Squabbles and all the users of those platforms also won big from Reddit's hubris. The one thing I know for sure is that they have grown Lemmy by 7000%, and that's nothing to sneeze at.

Time will tell what happens to Reddit.

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Really‽ I just checked and many of the small subreddits I used to follow became much less interesting/active if not dead.

Meanwhile, some of the bigger subs became a repost dumping ground of years old posts/images/videos/memes by fairly new accounts (i'm guessing those are bots karma farming).

The fediverse is the much better way IMHO.

In any case, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit have become too toxic to use I will keep away (though, I never had a Facebook nor a Twitter account)

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[–] [email protected] 46 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I am not really shocked because the only way to really beat Reddit is by leaving the platform completely as in what many did when Melon Husk took over Twitter. Mass exodus. Express displeasure by voting with your feet and GTFO.

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 1 year ago (3 children)

it feels like a biased, paid and made up news for spez's money to try and revive this hole of a website. most of r/all posts are repost bots, as well as comments in them.

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let Reddit become Myspace. Lemmy wins, however we use it.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 1 year ago (10 children)

I wonder how many users and how much traffic they lost in the process.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Looking at the site recently it feels like half the content is gone. A lot of old stuff hanging around /hot on subs that I frequented doesnt seem like anyone "won" here. Reddit lost content creators, the users lost site functionality and content and half the mods got kicked to the curb for nothing.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago (3 children)

That's not true. It may be true in r/technology, but reddit hasn't won. It's just that those still on Reddit didn't make it.

We showed that we care, and we showed that we can dump them. Reddit is currently dying. It may be a slow process, but I don't think the enshittification of reddit will stop.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 year ago

I won't really call that a win,

Reddit lost the trust of many users, a non insignificant part of contributors and moderators left, the enshittification of the platform is not going to stop but they lost a big part of what made Reddit great. They damaged their image and popularity.

It's like saying Elon won by trashing Twitter. Sure he does what he wants with it but making your platform less desirable sure isn't a win for the platform.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Won the battle... NOT the war.

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They might have won but now that Rif doesn't work anymore I'm testing Lemmy. I've noticed that reddit content is less updated throughough the day so I suppose that some active posters have left.

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago

Spez gambled that most mods would give up because they where power whores. He won because he was right.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My old time allocated to Reddit is now allocated to Lemmy (65%) Reddit (35%).

And Infinity for Lemmy is making Lemmy even more familiar than ever.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (14 children)

I dont know what you say, I transitioned to Lemmy 100% and deleted my acc at reddit.

The only super annoying thing is that they get to keep the cake whole and the dog full (my comments by deleting my name and my acc deleted). Which I despite them for that even more now and just make me avoid the platform even more and dis-advertise it.

I would be fully happy if I had my account, changed my comments first to "fuck /u/spez" and then had deleted my account, but I only knew so much. I was naive enough to think they would delete my comments too, since they're My Intellectual Property. Right? They came from my own mind, I took the time to write them, and I deleted them! But no! We will keep them, just delete your name.

And when you google my reddit username, you still get from the google's cache directed to threads with my deleted comments. Fuck you spez. Fuck you.

Time will tell if reddit won. It's not a short-term fight. I deleted my discord a Chinese Tencent's vessel and a product that makes no money but burns money for the sake of gathering data. My Instagram, my Meta account thus my FB too, my WhatsApp, every app that was there just to gather my data or exploit me now or in the future.

I do everything to keep off being fingerprinted. I use platforms that use more and more end-to-end encryption like Matrix. Or at worst Telegram which is not end to end but the best of the worst since my relatives still use it.

Just because you don't see it yet, doesn't mean that a movement against anti-consumer platforms like reddit don't exist. I inform my mom about it, I inform my relatives and friends about it. I move friends and friends move me to safer for the future to use platforms and de-centralized.

A battle may be short, but the war is long.

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