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"The two Iranian officials said the weapon had struck an S-300 antiaircraft system at a military base in the nearby province of Isfahan. The officials’ account is supported by satellite imagery analyzed by The New York Times, which showed damage to the radar of an S-300 system at the Eighth Shekari Air Base in Isfahan."

"It was unclear what sort of weapon struck the Iranian air defense system. Three Western and two Iranian officials confirmed on Friday that Israel had deployed aerial drones and at least one missile fired from a warplane."

"Neither the missile nor the aircraft that fired it entered Jordanian airspace, the Western officials said, a gesture meant to keep the kingdom out of the conflict after it helped shoot down Iranian weapons last week."

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

And this is why Iran does most of their military action through terrorist proxies in the Middle East. In direct confrontations they loose, even when they fire disproportionally more munitions than their enemy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (7 children)

“Neither the missile nor the aircraft that fired it entered Jordanian airspace, the Western officials said, a gesture meant to keep the kingdom out of the conflict after it helped shoot down Iranian weapons last week.”

But it did go over Iraqi airspace. Why does that not matter?

Edit: Any of you folks downvoting me care to tell me why it doesn't matter?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Because Jordan had an active role in shooting down Iranian drones and missiles while Iraq did not.

[–] DinosaurSr 5 points 8 months ago

I think the political situation with Jordan is a bit more complicated than with Iraq. Jordan and Israel have a peace treaty, but are definitely not allies. At least that's my understanding.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Because Iraq, by not preventing Iranian military action in their airspace implicitly has made it part of the war zone - same way Lebanon & Syria allowing Hezbollah to use their territories for military action has made their territories part of the war zone.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

If we ever nuke China or Russia, do you think we're worried about the airspace we're using?

I get it as a principled point, but I think you're missing what's happening here. And deniability and/or inability to knock the missile down... It flies.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure it's because Iraq was already completely destroyed by America and they have no fucking defenses at all to do anything to Israel even if they wanted to

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

But that doesn't mean that the sovereignty of their air space should be ignored. Just that America doesn't give a shit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

That being the point of the quote....

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

But it did go over Iraqi airspace. Why does that not matter?

Because it simply doesn't matter. What is Iraq going to do? Nothing.