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Glasgow-based Sandyford clinic issues update after Cass review found ‘weak evidence’ for use to treat gender incongruence

Archived version: https://archive.ph/CY5xk

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

Who else would you give puberty blockers to 🤔

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Well duh, you need to give those kids actual HRT to help them. Of course puberty blockers aren’t enough !

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're supposed to have therapy before you start doing things you can't undo, among other things to make sure it's actually the child's choice.

Which is why blockers are useful. Either way, you've minimized potential harm.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Do you have to get therapy before tatoos or plastic surgery
And almost all hormone effets are reversible
From experience, "therapy" is just gatekeeping

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

hrt does permanently affect fertility in both men and women so it's not something that can be fully undone, hence the therapy requirement.
you must be absolutely sure before committing to it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

We are talking about blockers, not hrt. Hormone blockers effects are reversible, and with hrt fertility is the only thing that's getting affected in the long run, but still you don't need to get therapy before getting a vasectomy.

Id like to add to the original comment that my body has been destroyed by an unwanted puberty and that yes, not getting blockers prescribed has harmed me

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

the comment you responded specifically mentions hrt though

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Oh sorry I completely misread the original two comments, sorry about that. But still, while I do agree that you usually want to minimize potential harm, I still want to insist that therapy is not a good way of knowing if a person is really sure of it and it often into an infantilizing and unpleasant experience

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

What about children who enter puberty too early?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

uhhh read the sentence again. slowly.

if I understand correctly there's no point in prescribing them to adults right? like irrc puberty does continue till like 18 or 19 somethines but it's probably already too late at that point?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I always wonder when people transition very young, I'm 40 now and I have felt many different ways throughout my life, and it changes every 10 years. I would be scared to make such a big decision at that age. Good for them if they know what they want for life but 20 year old me was convinced he was gay, but I'm not and know that I'm 40 I have zero attraction to men when I was very bisexual in my be 30s. Anyways. Humans are weird that way.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

That’s the sad thing here—puberty blockers give kids, their families, and their healthcare provider time to figure things out before the permanent changes of a dysphoric puberty.

And puberty blockers have been used for decades for cis-kids without any controversy—but for trans kids—apparently that’s a bridge too far.

The Cass report found exactly what it was commissioned to find, and misrepresents the research.

The science is clear, gender-affirming care saves lives.

https://www.apa.org/about/policy/transgender-nonbinary-inclusive-care.pdf

https://www.psychiatry.org/File%20Library/About-APA/Organization-Documents-Policies/Policies/Position-Transgender-Gender-Diverse-Youth.pdf

https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/19021/AAP-continues-to-support-care-of-transgender

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago

Good job they actually did a review into this. Rather than just setting a narrative and going with it, even silencing doctors that have alternative views.