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[–] Lodra 28 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Proton is obviously promoting their own product: proton pass. I tried it and found that it needs a little more development time. Just a little polishing.

In the meantime, Bitwarden is fantastic. I also hear good things about onepass. Don’t use chrome’s password manager.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah this is basically an ad.

Also to note: all they say about the built-in password manager of Firefox is that it lacks the feature to save credit cards. But I don't care about that and am perfectly happy using Firefox (alongside pass (https://www.passwordstore.org/) on my laptop).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Well yeah, it's a blog on their own website.

Basically every corporate blog is an ad for their own products.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I very recently switched my personal email over to Proton but there's no way I'm letting go of BitWarden. I've tried a lot of password managers over the years, and nothing beats it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Probably not, but it sure works good.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

It's a step up from the postit note on .y mo itor of my 32 char nonsense the work makes me use while actively blocking integrated 3rd party plugins.

Not much of a step but i have shit I could be doing instead of failing to type it correctly on the 1st go

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Use a passphrase. Easy for a human to remember, hard for a machine to crack.

The difference is a passphrase is a bunch of random words stringed together so you get a longer passcode, versus a shorter string of random characters, which is a password.

Obviously the best is long passwords, but that's only if you have a password manager.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's what I try to do the issue comes in when you have about 10 high level accounts that ate on random reset timers raging from 3 to 6 months and require complex chars (that's the bit that kills me) some of which don't even tell you they are expiring. So by the time my old ass commits them to memory it's all change.

They won't let me use horse battery staple correct anymore

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Ah yes my workplace is like this due to the data we work with. I get to use a KeePaas though!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

It's a step up from the postit note on .y mo itor

That's the key thing: yeah it's better to use an independent password manager than Google's one, but even Google's one is so much better than the alternative of not using one at all!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

I don't use Chrome, and don't use browser-based password management. Why would I want to trust a third party with the most secure aspect of my digital life? The answer to the question, "What do you do when online password managers are insecure and compromised by bad actors?" Isn't to use a different online password manager.

Keepass.