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Since news leaked out 2 days ago that Facebook has approached Mastodon developers and admins - requiring non-disclosure agreements first - the whole microverse (i.e. mastodon / pleroma etc, the micro-blogging part of fedi) has been talking about nothing but that and Facebook's imminent entry into the fediverse with an as yet not clearly defined entity called Barcelona or p92. This woud be very roughly comparable to Reddit saying they are going to federate with lemmy.

Yet here on lemmy I could only find a relatively small discussion.

https://kbin.social/m/fediverse/t/62958

Did the lemmyverse not know or just not care that much?

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 years ago

On the one hand, embrace-extend-extinguish is a classic playbook for big evil companies.

  1. Facebook runs a version of mastodon or lemmy or whatever that is actually good
  2. People get on board because it's usable and ostensibly open
  3. Facebook invents features that, sadly, are not possible with ActivityPub (actual private messages come to mind)

On the other hand, it remains to be seen if anyone takes Meta up on a new offering. I'd have complete faith in the future of the open Internet if it was Google trying this.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I read the article on it. The concern is that the Facebook instances will be defacto entry-points by sheer size a la lemmy.ml et al to a much grander scale, and they have more resources to support dev work than most public instances to incentivze a cleaner UX/UI a la lemmy -> kbin.

And when they're the biggest show in town, they have a magnetic pull towards new/future activity in the same way that the top 25 subreddits tend to suck the air out of all of the lesser known alternative subreddits.

The growth that they bring could have positive or negative results based on your view of the coin.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I haven’t really heard that much about this. But I am very skeptical of any claims that Facebook is actually going to fedderate in good faith.

Obviously, it’ll be up to the administrators of the different instances whether to federate or not. So we’ll see

I also wonder how big the overlap is between people who would use a federated platform and those who would willingly use anything made by Facebook.

With that said, I’ll never say never, but I find the likelihood of this taking off to be slim to none

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

I've heard some rumours but I'm not worried.They can create an instance if they want, by fediverse nature if they do something nasty others would be able to defederste from them.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

personally, as one of the people who has come over from reddit very recently, i don't really see it as being my place to comment on it and at any rate there are many other people saying the exact same as me anyway. screw zuckerberg, he doesn't deserve to share in what other people have built here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I guess since it’s a twitter competitor it doesn’t affect Lemmy as much right now.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Ugh. Nothing is sacred. Why does everyone want to get rich? We don't do anything for the public good anymore. I hope Jimmy can get an link aggregator up that is hopefully not for profit. I think that is the only way, it was only a matter of time before someone "OpenAI"'d the fediverse.

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