The minute Firefox adds this and tab stacking, im gonna switch to it and never look back (although I would also miss workspaces). For now only Vivaldi has the features I need
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I really enjoy the Firefox tree view add-on for managing tabs.
People suggest that but I tried and to me it does come close to tab stacking to each their own I suppose
tree style tab for the win
Ever since they added tab stacking it's become vital to how I use browsers. Idk if I could switch to something else without it having a way to approximate that flow.
By tab stacking you mean that feature where you can create those collapsible tab groups, right?
It's different. Instead of grouped tabs that expand within the same row of tabs, tab stacks show the group in a second row of tabs. Works great if you have a lot of tabs that tend to shrink in width to much to be usable.
Floorp, a browser based on Firefox, has Workspaces I believe (along a LOT of other stuff). Might be worth checking out.
Their website is in Japanese, but the GitHub page is in English. I’m sleepy and too lazy to link stuff right now, sorry.
If they have stacking tabs, I'm in
This is the feature I miss most in Firefox, aside from tab stacking. I used Opera (before Blink days) and later Vivaldi for a long time and tehese features almost made me go back. Me not wanting to use a Chromium based browser was the only thing stronger than that.
I've given up hope on ever getting these features in Firefox by now.
Completely agree.
I switched from Vivaldi to Librewolf a while back and I found Panorama Tab Groups and I think it is superior. YMMV
I don't think that's the same thing.
Tab tiling means having two or more tabs open at once, so that both can be worked on at the same time.
Is there also something in Firefox that works like Vivaldi workspaces ? Between that, tiling and tab stacking, I really have a hard time using anything else than Vivaldi at work.
Not exactly what you are looking for but Sidebery has a feature called Snapshots that allow you to save a group of tabs in their current state to open them later.
That's more of an alternative to vivaldi sessions, not workspaces
Interesting. I'll need to test it to see how it exactly behaves.
Idk about an extension in firefox but there’s a firefox fork than includes workspaces by default called floorp https://github.com/Floorp-Projects/Floorp/releases/tag/v11.1.0
There are tab group manager addons. One of them is Simple Tab Groups
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-tab-groups/
I'm using this one. You can set hotkeys to switch to a specific named group or to go to next or previous. I use it all the time.
I was looking into this because of the whole WEI thing and Vivaldi being part of the Chromium ecosystem—I found a tiling plugin for the 'fox, but visually, it's not seamless like Vivaldi's.
Each tile still looks like its own window complete with the tab space up top.
FYI, Vivaldi posted their opposition to WEI here. If website operators use the scheme then browsers not implementing it are at a loss. Hopefully every chrome based project (including edge!) is able to remove it so Chrome official is the only one where it works. Starving the approach of participants sounds like the only easy to make it fail.
While that's definitely where we need to aim, chrome has such a massive market share even if all the non chrome browsers band together it might not be enough.
I can see banks and employment sites implementing these things and forcing the hand of the smaller browser. I hope I'm wrong, but that seems likely.
the only thing google chrome is good for is destroying humanity. everything they do now has an ulterior motive to benefit themselves. just like apple and MS.
Why do you mention edge? Why would microsoft remove it?
Edge uses pieces of Chrome, so it will probably have the same WEI stuff unless MS chooses to remove it. Given the goals of MS probably aligns more closely with Google than other browser makers I think it's likely edge will have WEI.
The closest thing i know of, would be https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tile-tabs-we/ still window based, but ... at least it doenst introduce any iframe vulerabilities that way.
I'm still waiting on tab stacks before I switch completely. I'm also slightly disappointed that Vivaldi only has 2 levels of tab stacks. I would absolutely use more levels if I could.
If you need 2+ tab stacks, I think you would rather need a tab group manager, like Simple Tab Groups. It does not support nested groups, but you may be able to imitate it with "folder names" in the group name, or there might be better such addons too.
Honestly, I don't see how 2+ rows of tabs (+stacks) would fit on screen
Just curious: Vivaldi devs are always very keen in telling everyone how much they modify chromium to fit their privacy standards. Are they worse than Firefox?
Given that part of Vivaldi is closed source, it will always be 'worse' than Firefox in terms of privacy.
That's a very broad question. They have some advantages, like built in ad-blocker (firefox only has tracker blocker) with customizable lists, no analytics except basic user counting.
Firefox in theory has the advantage of being open source though I doubt anyone has independently taken it upon themselves to audit the code base of a whole browser, without payment.
Is it really that different from having multiple windows? I don't understand why it is such a important feature that others in the thread make it out to be. Feels like I am missing some details, just curious on what the actual difference is.
Workarounds are generally bad in most software situations. Yes we could tile the windows instead of the tabs, but
- We would have to put them all back in one window when exiting to get them saved
- Alternatively we could use profiles, but that's a hassle on startup.
- It probably eats up more resources
- If we wanted to relocate our "Firefox workplace" to somewhere else (let's say another monitor) we would have to drag multiple windows.
- On linux some window managers are just not there with tiling yet (and they might never be).
- Also it looks bad and is a workaround to something that should just be. Hope I didn't miss anything, and you sir have a nice day :)
Also if you could easily tile multiple windows it would use significantly more screen real estate as each separate window will have its own top bar
Wait until you discover tiling window mangers....
I would love something like this!
that would be sick
I haven't tried them out, but a quick Google search gave me 2 extensions
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tile-tabs-we/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tiled-tab-groups/
Not the last time I looked (about a month ago). You can tile windows on your screen, but not tabs within a window.
Interesting feature, do we know about other browsers that support this?