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Apple fixes iPhone bug that suggested Palestinian flag when some people typed ‘Jerusalem’ (www.cnn.com)

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[–] [email protected] 88 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Can we get the Israel flag to come up when we type 'genocide'?

[–] [email protected] 38 points 7 months ago

Well, the genocide flag does seem to get suggested when typing "Israel"!

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (3 children)

People pretending east Jerusalem does not exist now? Illegal settlements are still illegal ...

Honestly either flag makes sense given the divide. Which state is Kansas city in?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Out of all the occupying Israel is doing, I find that of former East Jerusalem most harmless. To my understanding, the Palestinians there are entitled to Israeli citizenship, there is no apartheid system like in the remaining West Bank, there is no blockade like in Gaza. If Gaza or the remaining West Bank were ruled like former East Jerusalem, I would find Israel a lot easier to defend.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

As far as I'm concerned, the Kansas side might as well not exist! (There is no subtext, I really don't like Kansas)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Which side has the better tax benefits?

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Would be nice if software in general would just stop suggesting things altogether and let the user decide what they want to say / do.

[Types X]

"Did you mean Y?"

Did I ducking type "Y"? No. I typed X.

Granted, this case seems more like the emoji metadata being mislabeled.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why? The suggestion bar doesn’t obstruct typing or reading, it expedites access to spell check and emojis, and if you really hate it, you can disable it.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You're focusing too narrowly. Suggestions in general. Software needs to get out of people's way.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

As another commenter has suggested, you can get it out of your way if you take the time and energy to do so. It just requires that you put in effort rather than have it handed to you on a silver platter.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not talking about iphones specically. I meant software in general.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Which often have settings if you look for them.

Are you shouldn't have Grandpa Simpson yelling at a cloud as your profile pic? Admiral Patrick sn't anywhere near as much a curmudgeon.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Well thankfully there’s both settings to turn those features off and settings to customize your own text replacement built right into the OS. So yeah, the users can indeed decide what they want to say/do.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago

Yeah, but when the default isn't tailored specifically to me and no one else, it's clearly bad design.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Duck duck duck

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Now I wonder if "Duck Duck Go" was originally going to be named something else 😆

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Is the name related to Duck Duck Goose, maybe?

[–] starman 1 points 7 months ago

Yes

https://web.archive.org/web/20090614090623/http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=652015

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It'll be nice when actual history is respected instead of stories made up by death cultists and corporations.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So which flag do you think should come up? The Ottoman's?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Frankly at this point nobody should get it. If children can't learn to play nicely with their things you take them away.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Who gets to be the parents in this situation?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago

I’m sure this will be a nice thread with civil conversations

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

big news

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

Newsworthy info, thx!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

On Tuesday, the company addressed the bug with the latest beta software release of iOS 17.5, just a few days after it said it was working on a fix.

Apple’s previous update was introduced on March 21, but the recent discovery of the bug upset some users on social media.

In one April 9 post on X viewed more than 2.3 million times, an iPhone user questioned whether Apple was aware of the error – and whether it was intentional.

But the user, who said she was Jewish, provided a long list of other cities that don’t surface a flag when entered into the emoji search box.

In 2017, the US administration of President Donald Trump recognized Jerusalem as Israel’s capital, reversing decades of American foreign policy.

So suggesting a Palestinian flag emoji for the search query “Jerusalem,” particularly when Israel is at war with Hamas, added tensions amid a long-running dispute.

The original article contains 278 words, the summary contains 152 words. Saved 45%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago

Android - 🇮🇱

[+] [email protected] -25 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Whoever snuck that in, should be looking for work today. Regardless of your views on politics, injecting them into your work product is problematic at best.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

This UI component is heavily informed by ML. It likely suggested that flag because users are frequently combining that word and emoji in sentences.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Except Jerusalem was part of Palestine at one point. It makes sense that it happened. If I had to guess, it's still part of Palestine's legal internationally recognized borders. I'm nit sure on that last but though because it's all kinds of weird.

[+] [email protected] -16 points 7 months ago (3 children)

And before before the Arab conquest Jerusalem was in the hands of the Jews. It also shouldn't be lost that Jews have lived there even under the brutal Arab regimes for over 3,000 years....

The entire point of decolonization is giving the land back to the people who are indigenous to it. Arabs are not indigenous to Judea. They come from the Arabian Peninsula.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

The entire point of decolonization is giving the land back to the people

How indigenous are we talking about? 3000 years? 3 million years? Might start filling up my pool and get some fish in there.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Back to the initiation of the culture.... this isn't hard to understand. Is there a 3 million year old culture remaining today? No.

There's a 3000 year old one though and they're in their homelands again.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That's completely false. Go ahead and do more research on how fascist israeli govt not only ethnically cleansed Palestinians Muslims and Christians but also Palestinian jews.

Also define culture. I am pretty sure that the current jews living in israel have way different culture compared to 3k years back so your point doesn't make sense.

Also define Homeland. I recently read about "aliyah" and I think people that take it should be blacklisted by all countries. It's actually insane to me how normalised this process of ethnic cleansing has become.

Can i ask you which country you are from?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

First, don't conflate Israel with Jews. It is a government not a religious authority, and using Judaism as a veil is deeply antisemitic.

Second, this is an infantile understanding of colonization. Shall we give Crimea back yo to the Greeks? They inhabited it 3,000 years ago. Clearly not, and if Greece invaded and exploited the land and the people we'd call them colonists.

This blood and soil logic is exactly what european nationalists use to expell Jews. Comically such advocates of this logic also rarely support returning land to indigenous peoples in the US...

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago

What a stupid take. Israel is the homeland of the Jewish people, it's intractable from the Jewish people. Don't be so ignorant. Next week Jews will celebrate the return to their homeland from exile in Egypt, they've been doing so for thousands of years.

Your understanding of indigeneity doesn't come close to the established academic or real world understanding of it. If the Greeks had remained in Crimea, maintained the language and culture like the Jews have done then yes they'd absolutely be considered indigenous. There are a dozen examples of these sorts of people's across the MENA region, they're all indigenous, not the Arab invaders who forcibly colonised the land.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, and the people who became Muslims lived there too at the same time (they were jews). Who the hell cares?

The jews who lived there were mostly Arab by the way. They weren't the European jews who live there today.

[+] [email protected] -15 points 7 months ago (2 children)

So you're saying that violence should win out. That's an interesting take. Those people were forced to convert under threat of death, just like happened across the MENA region. That's an indisputable fact with reams of history in that country backing it up. Both the Arabs and Jews kept great notes.

Arab Jews don't exist. That's literally not a thing. Ask any Sephardic or Mizrahi Jew and you'll get an earful. There are Jews who refused to convert, they're not Arabs. The Arabization of the region doesn't give them claim to the history of the region which is clearly being attacked right now, your comments make that abundantly clear.

If you believe that violence is an acceptable form of wielding power as you claim above, then you would be hypocritical to take issue with the situation in Gaza today. Violence isn't the answer IMO, no one wins that way. Seems like people want to ignore that's how Islam spread though, but the people who live in the sole non Arab state in the region won't ignore it and are clearly fed up with it. If violence is the chosen path, it's very evident the Israelis are up for the task.

Lastly, over 70% of Israelis are either Arab or from the MENA region. Your lies about them being European Jews is just yet another bigoted stereotype. You seem to be hitting all the classics here.

It's interesting to watch people like you attempt to spread misinformation like this. Everything you've lied about is very clearly captured in the historical record.

Next you're gonna claim DNA testing is illegal aren't you? There's only so many lies in the handbook LMFAO.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Alright, I'm not continuing this conversation. You're trying to put words in my mouth to strawman me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Jews

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

so you're saying violence should win out

Excellent way to tell everyone you don't care about having an actual conversation and that you're too biased to listen to anyone replying with evidence

Edit: and on the first line! Very efficient strawman

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Not sure why you think it was intentional. The error could have been around since the 1st iphone and they just discovered it due to current political tensions, for all we know.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's not how development works but it most probably has to be an issue with ml.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I am a software developer. That is absolutely how development works in some places

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I'm pretty confident apple did not create a prediction model back in 2007.