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Mississippi Gov. Tate Reeves declared April 2024 as Confederate Heritage Month in Mississippi, keeping alive a 31-year-old tradition that began in 1993. Beauvoir, the Biloxi, Miss., the museum and historic home of Confederate President Jefferson Davis, announced the proclamation in a Facebook post on Friday, April 12.

“Whereas, as we honor all who lost their lives in this war, it is important for all Americans to reflect upon our nation’s past, to gain insight from our mistakes and successes, and to come to a full understanding that the lessons learned yesterday and today will carry us through tomorrow if we carefully and earnestly strive to understand and appreciate our heritage and our opportunities which lie before us,” says the governor’s proclamation, which is dated April 12. “Now, therefore, I, Tate Reeves, Governor of the State of Mississippi, hereby proclaim the month of April 2024 as Confederate Heritage Month in the State of Mississippi.”

Beauvoir is owned and operated by the Sons of Confederate Veterans, a neo-Confederate organization that promotes “Lost Cause” ideology, a revisionist history that whitewashes the Confederacy’s racist past and downplays the role of slavery in the Civil War. Beauvoir annually receives $100,000 from the State of Mississippi for development and maintenance.

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[–] [email protected] 118 points 8 months ago (2 children)

This is what happens when you don't properly complete Reconstruction.

Every single Confederate officer & politician should have been hanged by the neck until dead.

[–] [email protected] 76 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I try to explain this to people and they look at me like I’m a madman. The civil war never ended because we allowed their leaders to live and continue planting their seeds of bigotry.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Lincoln went disgustingly soft on reconstruction, Johnson destroyed it.

Honestly Lincoln cared far more about getting the country together than he did about ending slavery, or attempting to integrate these new freed persons into society. Several times he seriously suggested sending them off to some island to colonize it themselves so he wouldn't have to deal with it.

Also I'd highly encourage anyone to read "Black Reconstruction in America" by Dr. W.E.B. DuBois if you're interested in this kind of thing.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

Recolonization was Lincoln's orignal opinion. But by the end of it all, and after speaking to Fredrick Douglass, Lincoln's opinion changed. His final address he talked about integration of Freedmen. Upon hearing these words, John Wilkes Booth decided to up his time table and assassinate Lincoln that very night.

From all my readings, there is one thing common across all of the greatest US presidents, and that is their ability to change their opinions when they were wrong.

[–] zero_spelled_with_an_ecks 95 points 8 months ago (2 children)

"our heritage" of getting their asses handed to them over slavery. What losers.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Their "heritage" lasted five years. The Obama Administration lasted eight years. The Obama Administration is more of the South's heritage than the Confederacy.

But if you want to celebrate some actual Mississippi heritage, celebrate blues music. Oh wait- that was invented by those people.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Maybe we should offer them a historic demonstration

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[–] [email protected] 85 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What culture - owning slaves? What heritage - losing wars they started? Fuck Tate Reeves and fuck Confederate traitors who don't remember the last shit-kicking they got.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What's insane is that the Confederacy was only around for around 4 years, yet they claim this is the cornerstone of their 'heritage' well over 150 years later.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Maybe in 150 years, Missouri will name April to be WiiU month.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I made a comment about this the other day. It's as dumb as me walking around with an Italian flag as an American that has Italian ancestry, but my family has been here for over 100 years... There's nothing Italian about me lol

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sometimes, people get beat so badly, their memory suffers.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Brain damage? Yeah, that tracks.

[–] [email protected] 53 points 8 months ago (3 children)

So they wanna celebrate being losers?

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (2 children)

They want to openly celebrate slavery.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 8 months ago

And treason.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

It's Mississippi so yeah.

Rankings Scorecard:

Crime & Corrections #34.

Economy #49.

Education #41.

Fiscal Stability #40.

Health Care #49.

Infrastructure #47.

Natural Environment #16.

Opportunity #36.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/mississippi

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Without getting into it, that site seems really fucky. I mean north carolina is ahead of new york and cali somehow. It's also vastly over estimating Mississippi, that place is famous for being bad.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

I think it's about marketing, if they don't spread their bigotry it'll die out. That's why conservatives are in constant fear of education and letting their kids go off to colleges where they can learn about alternative paths than hate and fear.

[–] AdmiralShat 46 points 8 months ago

A reminder that the Confederate Constitution literally said black people would forever be property

Article I Section 9(4) No bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law denying or impairing the right of property in negro slaves shall be passed

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Seems like a great opportunity to shine the spotlight on all the bigoted shit the Confederacy did / stood for, and celebrate the destruction of those traitors.

If we're going to embrace it as our heritage - and we should, cuz it is - it should be with cautionary respect to the evil that many of us succumbed to so that we don't head down that path again.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

I aim we honor the southern folk who took up arms and signed up for their country despite the fact that that meant shooting at their racist dipshit neighbors

[–] [email protected] 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

The Confederacy lost, and were guilty of treason. People want to bring back the Confederacy (actively plotting) - isn't that basically declaring war? Or sedition?

Do as the Germans do.

Confederate supporters are traitors and or terrorists.

Why laws if no laws?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Since Governor Reeves will never do so, I apologize to every descendant of the Atlantic slave trade on his bigoted behalf.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Don't apologize for him, am apology means an acceptance of wrong doing and am effort to improve and repair the damages. This dipshit isn't going to do that.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Free speech is important, but I can’t believe we tolerate this.

Sometimes I think Germany got it right - free speech most of the time, but they crack down hard on any Nazi shit.

I don’t trust our politicians not to chip away at it, though.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago (13 children)

I entirely think Germany is right and I even think that works within the frame of the First Amendment because overt racism is an implicit (and even sometimes explicit) threat of violence, which is already not legal. It just needs justices uncorrupt enough to see it that way. Unfortunately, we do not have those justices right now.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago

Mississippi long since hit the bottom and they just keep on digging.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (1 children)

And here I thought just Florida was a garbage state

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (1 children)

No, Florida is the garbage state. It's one thing to emotionally live in the past. It's another to actively reverse progress to live in the past and be so bad at it like Florida.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Florida is the garbage state

I beg to differ. Florida gets more headlines since the national press hasn't completely given up on it yet, but Mississippi is worse.

A lot of the Mississippi awful is just too depressing, hateful and stupid in a nondramatic way to make for good headlines.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

I'm just amazed he didn't pick February...

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We should have finished what John Brown started.

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[–] RustyShackleford 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)

~~Confederate~~ Traitors Heritage Month

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

~~Confederate~~ ~~Traitors~~ LOSER Heritage Month

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

Hate Reeves still doing his part to make sure that Mississippi remains the worst US state.

Some would say that Texas or Florida are worse, but that's just became their awfulness gets all the press. Mississippi is worse than either and it's mostly thanks to disgusting demagogues like Reeves.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

"As we honor all who lost their lives in this war, it is important for all Americans to reflect upon our nation’s past, to gain insight from our mistakes and successes, and to come to a full understanding that the lessons learned yesterday and today will carry us through tomorrow."

Had me in the first half.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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[–] RustyShackleford 6 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

You, you the people of the South, believe there can be such a thing as peaceable secession. You don't know what you are doing. I know there can be no such thing. If you will have it, the North must fight you for its own preservation. Yes, South Carolina has by this act precipitated war. This country will be drenched in blood. God only knows how it will end. Perhaps the liberties of the whole country, of every section and every man will be destroyed, and yet you know that within the Union no man's liberty or property in all the South is endangered.

Oh, it is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization. You people speak so lightly of war. You don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing. I know you are a brave, fighting people, but for every day of actual fighting, there are months of marching, exposure and suffering. More men die in war from sickness than are killed in battle. At best war is a frightful loss of life and property, and worse still is the demoralization of the people.

You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people, but an earnest people and will fight too, and they are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it.

Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The Northern people not only greatly outnumber the whites at the South, but they are a mechanical people with manufactures of every kind, while you are only agriculturists - a sparse population covering a large extent of territory, and in all history no nation of mere agriculturists ever made successful war against a nation of mechanics.

The North can make a steam-engine, locomotive or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical and determined people on earth - right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else, you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with.

At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, and shut out from the markets of Europe by blockade, as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. ... if your people would but stop and think, they must see that in the end you will surely fail.

  • Major General William Tecumseh Sherman, Conversation with David Boyd, one of his professors at the Louisiana Seminary [which would later become LSU] regarding South Carolina's secession, 24 Dec 1860
[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Sherman should have personally visited every confederate home.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)
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