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Is there a more politically and ideologically diverse alternative for Lemmy? (lemm.ee)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I know the real answer is reddit but I really don't want to go back now that I've already grown used to life without it. I was hoping for Lemmy to be a viable substitute but it isn't. I can see how this place is wonderful for the certain type of person but that person is not me. My experience during the past 6+ months has been a net negative and I'm pretty much ready to move on. I just don't know where else to go.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (7 children)

What have you tried? There are communities of all types on here. If you say something, there are definitely people who will agree and others who will disagree. Most will express it quite badly and few will give a thoughtful response. Reddit, I find, was much worse at nuance.

/r/askmen for example was open to anybody asking questions while /r/askwomen was heavily heavily moderated and didn't allow diverging views. /r/science turned into a place for science memes. /r/politics was just a battleground for left and right wingers calling each other names, and places about men's health were consistently attacked by other subs. Reddit seemed like twitter's second coming - with communities.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

What made your experience negative ?

I'm on an large instance which doesn't federate with Grad, so I don't see the Right-winger playing to be leftist by supporting right wing dictators
Tons of communities don't get that much political beside the respect basic human rights and sometimes comment the news
Even with the European election ongoing, I don't see much political discussion on European communities

So may-be try more "casual/fun" communties than the political one.

If you use the "local feed" it may be worth checking another instance. I heard good stuff of Blahaj Lemmy which as no downvote and act mostly as a safe/relax space for queer but is open to non queer people

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago

I feel your pain. The fediverse has been disappointing because of the extreme bias and propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I can't tell if you're the problem or if it is Lemmy.

I don't think there is an alternative as of now.

However: I think Lemmy will grow. As of now it doesn't due to the limitations of the software developers... Which is my personal little pet peeve. But it's currently in the process of diversifying itself. New projects like Piefed and others are being developed to tackle the current issues and limitations that don't get addressed by the Lemmy developers. I think there is a good chance that Lemmy is going to change in the near to mid future.

(And I don't get all the drama and political arguments anyways. It doesn't contribute anything to my life discussing world news/politics and it's bound to be negative... I'd like some more nice personal projects, soldering electronics, Linux communities and maybe posts about woodworking or lewd stories. Arguing about politics is a valid thing to do, but also boring in my perspective and this place is full of it.)

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Reddit: everybody sucking Trump or Biden’s dick

Lemmy: everybody sucking Putin or Xi Jinping’s dick

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (2 children)

I agree and started putting effort into Mastodon. It took a week or two of filtering and browsing to find users and content but I've definitely found a more engaging base of content to interact with that is nice.

I was an engaged redditor who switched 100% to Lemmy and I do not feel quite satisfied with the comments and content.

I'll stick around, but I find myself on Mastodon and using Ground News more often.

Btw I have comments in my history of how frustrated I was about finding content on Mastodon, but suddenly it clicked after I spent a bunch of time on it. Not a raving endorsement but ultimately I do enjoy it.

Another side note, I was looking for some top users to follow and some have 10k followers, cool. Then I find some federated threads accounts with millions and realize how small we are in comparison. I know why, and I understand it, but it's truth that small user bases have less ideas.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I thought we have quite a diversity here with extreme right wing on hexbear, extreme left wing on lemmygrad, center with lemmy.world, (clasic) liberalism on dbzer0, and everything between like blahaj, beehaw, redhat, slrpnk, etc.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (3 children)

Hexbear are not right-wing in the slightest. They're basically Lemmygrad but with even more shitposting.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (3 children)

I don't know much about hexbear, but why's it extreme right?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (5 children)

Imo it is fine as long as you stay away from Lemmy.ml, Lemmygrad and Hexbear.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm not sure of better alternatives, only different. Mastodon or even Threads might be your solution. I also took a look at the comment history to get a sense of what you mean and I think I get it since I also get a fair share of negative interactions.

I think it's actually because of Lemmy's size that you get some pretty fringe views on here. Heck, if anything, the diversity you seek might mostly be all the views in-between that get drown out by the loudest fringe views. I'm sure there plenty of us lurking, since it's so exhausting engaging with lemmings at times. I'm by no means a moderate, but simply trying to defend a news source as legitimate can feel like a disheartening chore.

Anyway, I don't really know where to go for that and if you find out, I'd love to know. I don't necessarily agree with you on your views, whatever they may be, but I certainly can agree that we need a little wider range of views (and perhaps a bit more civility when someone expresses a different perspective).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't even mind the fringe views. I even switched instances to one that federates with lemmygrad because of that. I know there are a diverse group of people here but many of them don't comment because you get bullied for it. You can reliably guess which types of comment are the most popular ones and which ones are completely missing.

Another thing I have an issue with here is the fact that for the most part it seems that what is keeping this group together is not common ideas or goals but the common hatred towards an outgroup.