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[–] [email protected] 72 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I also noticed that chatGPT can't actually correct itself. It just says "oh sorry, here's something different" and gives you another crap answer. I noticed it with code specifically. If I remember correctly it was better when it was brand new.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 year ago (5 children)

The apology thing is sort of hilarious. I wonder what exactly they did to make it eternally apologetic. There was an article on HN recently about how it is basically impossible to get Chat GPT to stop apologizing, as in, if you ask it to stop, it will apologize for apologizing.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 year ago (2 children)

As a Canadian, I have also apologized for apologizing 😞

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I hope you are sorry about that.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Nice reference although I do not remember where it comes from.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Reddit, goalie kicked someone in the face and yelled "ARE YOU FUCKING SORRY???" by mixing up "Are you ok?" And "I'm so fucking sorry".

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

chatgpt is Canadian?

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I experienced exactly that! I told it to stop apologizing for everything and just respond with correct answers and it apologized for not being able to stop apologizing.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

From HN,

Me: Can you stop using the word apologize whenever you are talking to me?

ChatGPT: I apologize (I will try to stop using the word "apologize" in my responses to you) if the use of the word "apologize" in my responses has been inappropriate or has caused any discomfort. As an AI language model, I am programmed to try to be as helpful and accurate as possible, and I apologize (I will try to use a different word) when I make mistakes or do not provide the information or assistance that is requested.

I will make an effort to avoid using the word "apologize" in my responses to you in the future. Please do not hesitate to let me know if you have any further questions or need any additional information. I am here to help and will do my best to provide accurate and helpful responses to your questions.

Also here is a recent HN discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36949931

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

This almost seems like it's being a sarcastic little shit

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So ChatGPT is now neurotic?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It is obsequious and has a guilt complex.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

It's because humans have rated potential responses and ChatGPT has been trained to generate the kind of responses that most consistently get preferred rating. You can imagine how an AI trained to say what people want to hear would become a people pleaser.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

That's what frustrates me the most whenever I try to use it. I tell it to be less verbose, stop over explaining and apologizing every time I correct it, and it just spits out another four paragraphs explaining why it's sorry.

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[–] peyotecosmico 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Did you dare to say it became dumb when it interacted with us?

How dare you? /s

Ahem Tay tweets

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Like that Twitter bot that turned racist after talking to some people for a while.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Microsoft's AI "Tay"

[–] [email protected] 29 points 1 year ago (4 children)

It cannot read. It doesn't see words or letters. It works with Tokens which words are converted into. It cant count the number of letters in a word because it can't see them. OpenAI has a Tokenizer you can plug a prompt into to see how its broken up, but youre asking a fish to fly.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

You aslo raed in tkoens, no dfifrecene heer

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

And a single "S" is also a token. Which has vectors to all other words that start with an S.

One thing to point out here is that the word sentences is severely mistyped as "sententences". That's not going to help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Is there a workaround to "trick" it into understanding letters? I'd love to use it to play with language and brainstorm some riddles or other wordplay, but if it literally can't understand language on a human level, that's a fools errand.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I asked it how many "n" mayonnaise has and it came up with manaonnanaise

[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Im not even mad, that's a great answer.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

It's not a good one. Or correct. But I still laughed. And I'm relieved that one won't cost too many jobs at least in this version.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I feel like if these things ever become really self aware, they will be super fucking with us

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's gonna be an Iain M Banks kind of super intelligence, for sure.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Idk what I’m doing wrong, thankfully it always seems to listen and work fine for me lmao

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The second sentence also had an s in it

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Now it’s broken, I guess I I don’t use it this way often enough. Interesting nonetheless!

Edit - it’s very semantic, it matters if I include an uppercase “S” or not. That’s amusing.

I wonder if the temperature settings adjustment would fix that or just make it even weirder.

[–] nieceandtows 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The original reply included both s(2) and S(10) in it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But it’s able to correct unlike what’s shown in the OP messages.

Extremely semantically it seems but it clearly listens. It's neat to see how different each person experience is.

Also different tuning parameters etc..could make outputs different. That might explain why mine is seemingly a bit better at listening.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look at the first question in the my first screenshot. It gets that question correct for “mayonnaise” lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It got it wrong when I asked it to list them

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I feel like ChatGPT itself probably has a fairly loose temp setting (just a hunch) and I tend to set my conversations up to be more on the strict side

I imagine that’s why our results differ, it’s strange OpenAI doesn’t let ChatGPT site users or at least premium users adjust anything really yet.

[–] starman 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

It has not. ChatGPT has been a monumental achievement and has been capable of performing previously impossible and highly impressive tasks. This is new behavior for it.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Alignment at its finest.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Y'all seem to gloss over the word artificial when it comes to reading "artificial intelligence". That or you're leaning too hard on the first definition..

  1. made or produced by human beings rather than occurring naturally, especially as a copy of something natural. "her skin glowed in the artificial light"
  2. (of a person or their behavior) insincere or affected. "an artificial smile" 🤖
[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It's just so counterintuitive for a layman to have this tool that can write long flowing passages of text and theoretically pass a rudimentary Turin test, but it can't even begin to work with language on the level most toddlers can. We humans typically have to learn letters before we move up to words, sentences, paragraphs, and finally whole compositions. But this thing skipped right over the first several milestones and has no mechanism for reverse engineering that capability.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

ChatGPT doesn't understand letters, or phonetics, or most other aspects of speech. I tried for an hour to train it to understand what a palindrome is, with the hopes of getting it to generate some new ones. Nothing stuck. It was like trying to teach a dog to write its name.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

To be fair that feature sucked since the very beginning, at least for me.