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[โ€“] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I would pay again for Pro. Sync has been my reddit app for years.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should support developers of Libre Software instead. Jerboa devs for example.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[โ€“] [email protected] -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because proprietary software is unethical. It takes away our control over our devices. If we want to be able to control them, we need to use Libre Software. You also can't have any privacy or security if nobody can verify what a program does.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

unethical? takes away control?? you choose what to put on your device, proprietary software doesn't enslave your hand into pressing the install button.

[โ€“] [email protected] -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Just because users don't know any better it doesn't mean it's ethical. Developers should have the responsibility of ensuring their users get the freedoms they deserve. Those freedoms are the right to study and modify the program and distribute the original copy and the modifications. Only with those freedoms we can have control over the software that runs on our devices. Otherwise what's stopping the developer from adding spyware into the app (as it often happens in proprietary software)? Why would anyone trust that the program does what's in their best interest?

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Developers should have the responsibility of ensuring their users get the freedoms they deserve.

No one deserves anything

right to study and modify the program and distribute the original copy and the modifications

there is no such right in any code, legal or moral, that i've read in the past, i wonder what philosophical branch it is that sources this perspective

whatโ€™s stopping the developer from adding spyware into the app

nothing, but when they do that, that's when they're "being unethical". That's like saing it's unethical to have a kitchen knife in your kitchen because you COULD stab someone with it.

Why would anyone trust that the program does whatโ€™s in their best interest?

cuz they're dumb & uninformed. doesn't make it unethical tho, afaik.

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one deserves anything

We deserve human rights, democracy, freedom of speech, privacy. Since software is a huge part of our lives, Free Software should also be on that list.

there is no such right in any code, legal or moral, that iโ€™ve read in the past, i wonder what philosophical branch it is that sources this perspective

Those are the rights that are guaranteed by Free Software. If a program doesn't give them to you, then it's not free/libre and it means you don't control it. If you are not familiar with this movement, you can watch this video: https://youtu.be/Ag1AKIl_2GM

nothing, but when they do that, thatโ€™s when theyโ€™re โ€œbeing unethicalโ€. Thatโ€™s like saing itโ€™s unethical to have a kitchen knife in your kitchen because you COULD stab someone with it.

Developers shouldn't put themselves in a position of power where we have to blindly trust them that they don't do anything bad to us. Why would you want to agree to that as a user? We can really do better than that and it wouldn't cost the developer anything.

[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

We deserve human rights, democracy, freedom of speech, privacy. Since software is a huge part of our lives, Free Software should also be on that list.

never seen any proof of anyone deserving anything, including that

it wouldnโ€™t cost the developer anything.

i can charge $1k or i can charge $0, if i can choose, why would i go with $0. i like money, it makes life easier.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

never seen any proof of anyone deserving anything, including that

In the part of the world I live in those are considered basic rights that everybody deserves. If where you live that isn't true, then I'm sorry to hear that.

i can charge $1k or i can charge $0, if i can choose, why would i go with $0. i like money, it makes life easier.

Of course, you can charge how much you want for your software or any product you sell. Nobody wants to take that away from you. Free Software is not about price, but freedom.

[โ€“] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Just keep in mind that MVP in software means minimum viable product. Ie, it might not be initially as feature rich as sync for reddit is on it's last version.

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I'd probably pay on faith regardless, but really it just needs to be better than Jerboa in order to get traction.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'd expect it to be just the bare minimum at first. But that's fine.

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

Count me in ... I already bought lifetime sync before leaving reddit a few weeks ago ... after years of using the app and not paying for it until the end ... I'm more than willing now to pay for the app from the start

[โ€“] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Using Sync for years. Bought Pro, subscribed to Ultra. I'll gladly pay for whatever you create!

You are THE goat.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I didn't even realize there was an ultra. Would sign up with ultra here. I used sync pro for years and although I haven't Uninstalled it yet, I've removed it from my home screen, effectively removing it from my daily usage. Jerboa for now, but there are a number of issues. Can't wait for this...

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I'd even do a $50 founders pledge/edition or some junk like that. Let's get this rolling LJ!

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I bought sync for reddit, i will buy it for Lemmy.

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Heck I might buy it just to stick it to fu/spez

[โ€“] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

sync pro user here... would gladly pay again for lemmy sync... I still find myself inadvertently hitting the sync app almost as a reflex when I unlock my phone, lol

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Man, I bought sync waaaaay back when it first came out. It's such a good app and the dev is really forward thinking. I eventually moved to iOS but when I heard that sync had a beta app on iOS I grabbed that as well! Now I'm back on Android and reddit decided to kill itself... Needless to say, I'm really happy to hear that sync is coming to Lemmy!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Count me in! Ready to buy it again, woohoo ๐ŸŽ‰

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

My wallet is ready to buy whatever the highest tier is. Based on my Sync for Reddit experience it will be well worth it!

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Sync was easily the best experience for me when using Reddit and I'll put some money down again for that level of polish but for Lemmy.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Throwing in my support too. Used Sync for years!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Bought Ultra last week as a thank-you. Will buy again!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Honestly I've been a quiet default reddit app user but I'll pay to support a Lemmy sync

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You and me both, I've used the reddit one for about a decade and it effectively was reddit as far as I'm concerned. Lemmy's PWA is nice enough but I'll be giddy to get back into the familiar flow.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

yup! very excited to support this :)

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Likewise, definitely ready to throw money at it!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I used Sync for 10 years, would gladly support LJ again :)

I haven't been to reddit since the strike, but just went to view the r/syncforlemmy post: Looks like reddit is trying to suppress this announcement on mobile (of course) with a massive popup that won't let you view it. You can get around it by viewing as desktop though.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Decided to try Sync on Reddit today after I saw that the dev wants to add support for Lemmy. I used RIF before and I must say... Sync looks and feels really good! I would definitely pay for it if we get something similar for Lemmy.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Instantly the best Lemmy app. FREAKING AMAZING!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH !!!!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can always support [email protected]'s Patreon if you want to support his efforts!

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

my wallet is ready! so glad to see @[email protected] supporting lemmy!

im curious, is this a completely new app from scratch, or will it be able to repurpose a lot of the existing reddit app for lemmy?

[โ€“] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

How does Sync compare to something like RedditIsFun?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The aesthetic is fantastic. LJ knows how to make a beautiful app.

[โ€“] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I tried all of the apps out there including Sync and continued using RIF because, for me, it was simply a superior user experience to anything else in the market.

Aesthetics-wise, though, Sync and many others are much better. Sync is one of my favorites for sure. It's very pretty. I used it for a long while trying to make it my new alternative cuz the looks were so much better. It was very good. I can't remember why I went back to RIF. Must have been a trifling detail.

Overall I'm extremely happy to see Sync here. It's a high class app in what is a primitive environment I thought was not gonna be amazing due to the lack of apps and stuff. I'm 100% sure if Sync is finished here, there's no stopping Lemmy's growth.