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A VEGAN influencer is feared to have died of starvation after attempting to live on a fruit only diet. Zhanna Samsonova, 39, previously told how she spent four years eating and drinking just fruits…

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[–] [email protected] 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

You missed an important part of the headline "is feared to have..."

It says she caught a "cholera like" infection

[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah. It's The Sun and they put 'dies of starvation' in quotes. They are presenting rumors as facts (again).

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah, thank you. Was very confused and I am relieved to find that eating food of any kind still does not cause the body to starve. Although honestly, in this damn timeline, i would just shrug at this point

[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am relieved to find that eating food of any kind still does not cause the body to starve.

Except it does when you eat nothing but carbs and fiber with little to no fat and protein. You can be vegan all you want, but ignoring basic nutrition will always result in disaster.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

And

Zhanna's official cause of death has not been released yet, however.

Additionally she does look anorexic on some pictures, both things have nothing to do with being vegan, people are just pushing their hate by usings someone misfortune.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That could be deliberate to push a narrative against vegans.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, 100%. Look at the other replies to my comment and you can see people getting sucked into that narrative...

Ackshully.... vegans don't get all the essential nutrients to survive 🤡

If any of those boneheads actually read the article, it says she was eating sunflower seed sprouts which are a complete protein.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (5 children)

This has absolutely nothing to do with veganism.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Correct. This is just clickbait. Veganism is a healthy diet choice. This person suffered from anorexia, but people love to dogpile on vegans.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Can we ban The Sun, please?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

A VEGAN influencer. Thanks for making that really clear.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (3 children)

this has nothing to do with being vegan. please stop.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (2 children)

If she starved or died due to complications from her diet, if she wasn’t able to stave off an infection for example or recover properly from an illness that would not affect an otherwise healthy individual - I would say her diet or nutrition lifestyle is germane to the situation.

I believe that being vegan is a perfectly valid lifestyle and dietary choice but also people should be aware of some of the pitfalls.

Can you please elaborate why you feel that being vegan has nothing to do with it?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because the overwhelming majority of vegans aren’t eating nothing but fruit? Come on dude you can’t actually be this dense.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Look I’m sorry. I thought I had phrased my comment in a nonthreatening and inclusive way. But I guess you are right and I’m a complete useless human moron.

I’ll not comment anymore then.

Please see also my response to the other non toxic vegan person for clarification.

It just occurred to me that this Vegan influencer was promoting a lifestyle that may be dangerous and we should discuss it but I’m a moron so I’ll go away.

This is a case like not all gun owners suck only some gun owners suck.

The article was unfair. That’s a good discussion topic. Vegans aren’t all fruit people. That’s also valid. The importance of diet and the impact on our earth - also valid and crucial. How I should behave as to not come across as a dense moron - I’m not sure interesting to anyone else but I’m willing to have a go if you both are.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

She was a vegan promoting vegan diet online. How does thay have ntohing to do with being a vegan? what?!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Her mother Vera Samsonova said she had caught a "cholera-like infection" just hours before she was due to fly home.

Zhanna's official cause of death has not been released yet, however.

The SUN: "SHE DIED OF VEGANISM!"
Lemming: "How does this story have nothing to do with her being vegan?!?!"

I see we're already at Reddit type levels of idiocy.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Let’s be honest, tho: you don’t know either as her cause of death has not been released. I agree, the other user jumped to conclusions, but you can’t say anything definitive as of now either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I never claimed to know her cause of death. But between "cholera" and "veganism" I'd rather bet on the former.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

So the story has nothing to do with veganism, is that the point your trying to make? Really unclear

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Because not all vegans eat the same restricted diet she was on. And not all vegans are anotexic, vegans do eat enough.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

But I guess this vegan did starve herself. I don't even think the sun suggested all vegans diets are deadly.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

If they put it like that in the title, I see it like they are strongly implying it. Of course, I might be misreading it.

Also calling someone who eats only five different plants vegan does not sound really truthful to me either.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Any vegan with half a brain knows that you need more than just fruit to be healthy. Assuming her death by infection is a result of her diet (which is possible, but we don't know that), she died of being an idiot, not a vegan.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

It’s the Sun, what do people expect other than incendiary content that’s usually wrong? We should all take a leaf out of Liverpool’s book and have nothing to do with it.

For people who aren’t from the UK we’re kind of the other way around to America, our TV and radio news is generally pretty well-adjusted on the whole but our tabloid press is straight up infotainment and this has carried over into the internet era.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I knew someone who became a fruitatarian. He moved to the Phillipines and only ate Durian (look it up). He was my first glimpse at the "spiritual" > alt light pipeline.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

The next Steve Jobs, everyone

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