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Exclusive: Scientists say people with disease who drink two to four cups a day are less likely to see it return

People with bowel cancer who drink two to four cups of coffee a day are much less likely to see their disease come back, research has found.

People with the illness who consume that amount are also much less likely to die from any cause, the study shows, which suggests coffee helps those diagnosed with the UK’s second biggest cancer killer.

Experts said the findings were “promising” and speculated that, if other studies show the same effect, the 43,000 Britons a year diagnosed with bowel cancer may be encouraged to drink coffee. The disease claims about 16,500 lives a year – 45 a day.

A study of 1,719 bowel cancer patients in the Netherlands by Dutch and British researchers found that those who drank at least two cups of coffee had a lower risk of the disease recurring. The effect was dose dependent – those who drank the most saw their risk fall the most.

Patients who had at least five cups a day were 32% less likely than those who drank fewer than two cups to see their bowel cancer return, according to the paper, which was funded by the World Cancer Research Fund (WCRF) and has been published in the International Journal of Cancer.

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's because the coffee makes you shit the cancer right out

[–] [email protected] 19 points 7 months ago

Not far from the possible truth. Coffee drinkers are more likely to have regular bowel movements so that would help. 20% of all people have a bowel response thanks to coffee.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Ok now im waiting for the “other” study that says coffee causes cancer….

[–] [email protected] 15 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Despite its reputation, coffee is continually correlated with health benefits in statistical studies. This is not something made up by news agencies. But honestly, I don't get it either. I drink lots of coffee, but it can upset my stomach and give me the jitters. It just doesn't intuitively seem like something that should be healthy.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Switch to dark roast. It's borderline decaf.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

@John_McMurray @cholesterol L-theanine is very inexpensive, it's just an amino acid found in tea which eases jitters. Caffeine itself is good for exercise it's straight-up healthy if you can get to sleep haha

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It's a similar amount of caffeine

[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

No, it is not, believe me, I can tell.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] -3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm sorry you either don't drink coffee or are caffeine immune. Anecdotal isn't a euphemism for worthless.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

You can literally measure the amount of caffeine, why should I listen to your opinion?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Look you clown, everyone (except you, apparently) knows the longer you roast, the more you remove caffeine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

You're misinformed. You need to use more grams of dark roast to catch up, in terms of caffine, to light roast caffeine levels. You can still get the caffeine buzz from dark roast.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

Fewer grams because dark roasts have less moisture, so when you use 18g of the coffee you get more beans

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Not too likely, you'll pass the "tastes like crap now" threshold.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Why are you being so rude?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Why is he bothering me with this horseshit, is a better question.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ya, I think the key lesson is: Don't get your health information from the news, your health is not their goal.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

Making money, by attracting attention is the primary goal. Spreading falsehood is just “business as usual”. Informing the public is a byproduct of the core business.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

I believe those earlier studies did not factor the cancer risk from consuming very hot beverages. Apparently the damage to the cells of your mouth and throat from getting cooked causes mutations that could develop into cancer.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 7 months ago

It's widely known people who drink coffee also spend time each day meticulously cleaning their bowels. Simply a correlation.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here’s the interesting bit.

“The association between coffee consumption and all-cause mortality was U-shaped; coffee intake seemed optimal at 3–5 cups/d with the lowest risk at 4 cups/d (HR: 0.68, 95% CI: 0.53, 0.88). Our results suggest that coffee consumption may be associated with a lower risk of CRC recurrence and all-cause mortality.”

Well, what exactly counts as a cup then?

“Coffee consumption in cups/d was then calculated by multiplying the frequency of consumption per day by the number of cups that were consumed. We further accounted for the differences in the sizes of cups by multiplying coffee in cups/d by 1 (for cup) or 1.5 (for mug).“

I guess the traditional 100 ml cups and the common 200 ml cups are all just cups, whereas 300 ml mug is clearly a mug. Who knows really, when the data is all self reported. I guess my 400 ml/d consumption should be roughly optimal.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the absolute volume is not what’s important to get the benefit?

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So, if I use espresso cups or even dollhouse cups, I can easily hit that optimal cup number with a very small amount of coffee. 😁

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago

A double espresso from 16g of beans is less than 40ml and stronger than a bigger lungo from a nespresso pod (~7g coffee).

Smaller cups tend to be stronger. That same double espresso with 130g ice and 100ml milk and blend until ice is crushed makes a pretty strong frappuccino.

From espresso to lungo / americano to Starbucks recreations, they all basically use the same dose but wildly varying cup size.

Cup to mug of the same strength filter coffee makes a difference though.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)

So while something is definitely going to kill me, it almost certainly won't be recurring bowel cancer.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 7 months ago

Yeah, you just have to survive it the first time.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago
[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Time for my coffee enema

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

Does it help you not get the cancer in the first place?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Here's the problem, right. One of the signs of colon cancer is thin shits. Coffee causes thin shits. How tf do I know if my thin shits are from ass cancer or caffeine.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Stop consuming caffeine for a week?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

For science