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[–] [email protected] 17 points 1 year ago (3 children)

"With everyone having an opinion about who belongs in the conversation about the greatest players in NBA history, finding an unbiased take is difficult. Enter win shares. Win shares is a complex formula that attempts to take factors such as scoring, rebounding, passing, blocks, efficiency, and overall team success and quantify them into one easy-to-understand stat: wins.

For instance, each player on a 60-win team will receive a share of credit under win shares, while the best player obviously receives the most. That rewards players who drive winning and not so much for the ones that don’t. It also rewards longevity, as we’ll soon see."

# 50 - Chet Walker
# 49 - Dominique Wilkins
# 48 - Horace Grant
# 47 - Buck Williams
# 46 - Dwyane Wade
# 45 - Elvin Hayes
# 44 - Chauncey Bills
# 43 - Shawn Marion
# 42 - Scottie Pipen
# 41 - Vince Carter
# 40 - Patrick Ewing
# 39 - Steph Curry
# 38 - Steve Nash
# 37 - Walt Bellamy
# 36 - John Havlicek
# 35 - Adrian Dantley
# 34 - Clyde Drexler
# 33 - Bob Pettit
# 32 - Jason Kidd
# 31 - Dwight Howard
# 30 - Dolph Schayer
# 29 - Pau Gasol
# 28 - Ray Allen
# 27 - Gary Payton
# 26 - Larry Bird
# 25 - Robert Parish
# 24 - Paul Pierce
# 23 - Magic Johnson
# 22 - James Harden
# 21 - Kevin Durant
# 20 - Jerry West
# 19 - Hakeem Olajuwon
# 18 - Bill Russell
# 17 - Moses Malone
# 16 - Kobe Bryant
# 15 - Reggie Miller
# 14 - Charles Barkley
# 13 - David Robinson
# 12 - Shaquille O’Neal
# 11 - Oscar Robertson
# 10 - Kevin Garnett
# 9 - Chris Paul
# 8 - Dirk Nowitzki
# 7 - Tim Duncan
# 6 - John Stockton
# 5 - Michael Jordan
# 4 - Karl Malone
# 3 - Wilt Chamberlain
# 2 - LeBron James
# 1 - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The real MVP, there’s no way I was gonna click through 50 pages lol

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If you're interested in it; I took notable players top 5 Win Share seasons and got the following:

10 - Karl Malone - 79.85

9 - Chris Paul - 80.02

8 - Dirk Nowitzki - 80.4

7 - David Robinson - 87.8

6 - Oscar Robertson - 88.7

5 - Lebron James - 90.21

4 - George Mikan - 94.38

3 - Michael Jordan - 100.75

2 - Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 105.8

1 - Wilt Chamberlain - 112.32

I dunno.. i just wanted to see. CP3 is pretty good and George Mikan and David Robinson isnt talked about enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Very interesting! I’ve always been a big fan of the Admiral. Also of course Wilt is #1 lol

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Since an average NBA Player lasts around 5 years in the NBA. I'm wondering what the ranking would look like if you only took a players top 5 seasons' win-shares

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

@secondaccountlemmy @haulyard there are skills you can't measure with statistics, hence this discussion can never be solved by looking at statistics. There's more to it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

What do you mean by solved? Im just interested in data.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Dwight Howard having more win shares than guys like Wade, Curry, and Nash is bonkers.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Still annoying to me about the top 75 when it was really "the next 25" since all original 50 were selected

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Malone and Stockton...teammates. Those 90s Jazz teams were amazing and even a bit ahead of their time (3s / floor spacing) but they could never finish off the Bulls.