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As we all know, Ravio has been removed from the recommended multi-factor authentication apps for iOS on PrivacyGuides.

As I want to export all my TOTP codes out of Ravio ASAP, what apps are you migrating towards? I know a few were mentioned such as:

• Tofu • Ente • 2FAS • FreeOTP • Bitwarden TOTP + Yubikey

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 year ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (4 children)

I switched to 2FAS.

You can’t export from FreeOTP. Ente doesn’t appear to be open source. Tofu is an option but I’m afraid it might not be maintained.

Edit: Use Ente. It’s the best option.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Ente Auth seems open source: https://github.com/ente-io/auth

But the need for account is trowing me off a little bit. I’ll give a try to 2FAS as well.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

From ente Authenticator launch blog post, they do state it is open-source.

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Why are people switching away from Raivo?

/c/outoftheloop

Edit: Looks like it's been bought by a generic app developer about which there are few details to be found: https://discuss.techlore.tech/t/raivo-otp-authenticator-has-been-acquired/4962/2

[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I was in the middle of switching 2FA over to Raivo from Apple Keychain and you drop this aaaaa-

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 year ago (3 children)

The password manager for iphone or ios has mfa built in - seems to work ok. Its a bit annoying if you use a desktop thats not mac though and have to search for the mfa code among the millions of passwords.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago

iCloud Keychain is available as a chrome extension now, works on windows too. Hopefully Firefox is in the works

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I used to use them a while back but now I use Aegis. I prefer my 2fa offline and disconnected from the internet. I still keep my backups saved in safe spaces though. It served me well to get off of Authy too because last year, they got compromised.

https://techcrunch.com/2022/08/26/twilio-breach-authy/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I prefer my 2fa offline and disconnected from the internet.

That's great until you lose your phone or something...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Well, that's what backups are for. I sync my Aegis backups between phone, tablet and PC via syncthing. It's convenient to have authy handle bwckups for me, but if I use 2fa I don't want to water down its usefulness right away.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Edit: After digging into 2FAS, I think it is now my top choice. Seems like more of a drop in replacement for Raivo. https://2fas.com/

My second choice is (as of this edit) Owky. I’ve not seen anyone talking about it, but it’s FOSS and has the ability to export your TOTP codes.

Im a little worried about it not being maintained though, since it’s a single developer.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/owky-two-factor-authenticator/id1602245257

Other options I’ve considered:

Tofu Authenticator. Unfortunately it’s basic though and lacks the ability to export.

ente Authenticator. Account required, and I’m a little undecided on the company. Might be a serious option though.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I use Authy. It has Apple Watch app for quick access.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I have been using Authy as well. Works great in an apple ecosystem too.

Allows a quick copy from your phone to paste into computer browser when prompted for super easy usage.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I honestly have been loving iCloud Keychain. I’m pretty all-in Apple though, if I was more multi plat I would move to 2FAS

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I’m not a big fan of putting all your eggs in one basket. If for whatever reason your Apple account gets compromised, you’re utterly fucked lol.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I’m a fan of 1Password. Makes it easy to keep all my secrets in one place, behind a yubikey.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

1Pass auto fill of 2FA is so OP on desktop.

I love the family sharing features as well.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

Fan of OTP Auth

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I‘m using Google Authenticator, but so far nobody else here seems to, am I doing it wrong??

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

Considering googles track record with privacy I would hesitate to use it

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They make it hard to export your seeds if you want to move to the other platform or new device + closed source.

On Android Aegis is the great alternative. On iOS Raivo OTP used to be the main recommendation, but they just got bought by relatively unknown company, which is sketcy in on itself.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

I’m a fan of OTP Auth.

It’s been reliable, supports local and cloud backup / exporting, is simplistic in use and has a strong privacy policy.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

So I'm not on iOS but... the websites I need to use for various work things all require that you use a specific authenticator. But they all choose a different random one. It drives me insane. I have 4 different apps. Google Authenticator, Authy, Duo Mobile, and Onelogin Protect. I pray I change jobs before I get a new phone.

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[–] gogosempai 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I have been using ProtonMail and Drive already so it was an easy decision to switch to Proton Pass when it came out. It's an all-in-one password manager which let's you store 2FA as well and also let's you make email aliases. It's synced everywhere, on Firefox on my linux desktop to my android phone to my iPad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Apple Keychain OTP

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They got bought out by Mobime.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use Bitwarden for everything, including my totp codes. I should probably use a separate app solely for Bitwarden's totp code, but the danger of losing it all gives me such a rush!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

You can write down your Bitwarden 2FA recovery codes and keep multiple copies of them in safe and private places

[–] kryllic 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm currently enjoying ProtonPass' built-in 2FA. You gotta be on a paid plan, however, but it's worth it imo.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I use keepassxc topt

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Totp with bitwarden. Such a nice integration

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

None, just using the built in manager.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I’ve been using 1Password for years and love it. It’s multi-device support was one of the reasons I started using it, and now have a family subscription to share some things with my wife.

I rely on TOTP a lot for my IT job. With 1Password it’s easy to display them on my Apple Watch so I don’t need to keep opening the app on my phone or laptop.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I switched to 2FAS but im also looking into Proton Pass since im subscriber (password manager + 2FA) but i dont want to put all my eggs in one basket. Atm im using proton pass for unimportant stuff.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (4 children)

Not on iOS but I like my yubikeys. Depending on your requirements (if you have less than 32 TOTP accounts per yubikey), they can handle your TOTP directly instead of just using them to unlock Bitwarden.

For security I don't like to keep my TOTP keys in my password manager, even if it is strongly protected. With a yubikey I can ensure that both access to the key AND a physical touch is necessary to generate any codes. So even if I leave it plugged in on a remotely compromised PC I'm mostly protected, because a touch is required.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I'll be using BitWarden as my 2FA app. I use KeePass as my password manager so it would still be two different services/apps.

I was planning on using Tofu but it has no FaceID which is mandatory IMO.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago
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