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Any pig who resigns rather than face consequences should still face those same consequences but as a civilian and without any piggy job/union protections.
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What consequences?
The disgrace of having to get a job in the next town over.
The problem with this one, is that there were no consequences afaik.
edit: other than the children that were gunned down :(
Wouldn't that encourage them to still be cops (so they have extra protections), which we wouldn't want them to be?
since they can now simply retire/quit to escape consequences, it would deter that behavior. the expected result would be to remain in their post in order to face accountability.
If you strap on a uniform, you run towards danger. You signed up for special privileges, benefits and retirement in 20-years. In return you protect us with your life. That's the fucking contract.
Armed civilians like me will run -> hide -> fight. If we continue to see that we will not be protected, fight comes first. And that's makes for a wonderful society.
I agree this is what I want the social contract for police to be, but sadly it is not.
The Supreme Court has said:
- Police have no duty to protect civillians
- Police can steal your things (at least in traffic stops)
- Police can kill you with very little justification and often face no consequences. When they do, usually they can get a job close by with another department
- Police are immune to prosecution in most cases
We really need to decide what we want Police to do first and then figure out how to reform it. Right now they are basically an armed gang of the state that shakes you down for traffic violations or kills you if you are black or brown.
All of those are symptoms of Harlow V Fitzgerald (1982). That's when the SCOTUS was unknowingly handed an illegally revised statute, namely §1983 of the Federal Code. The reconstruction Congress of 1871 passed section 1983 specifically to strip all immunities from all politicians, judges, cops, and prosecutors, no matter where those immunities had come from. (Little hint, the Southern states gave those jobs exclusively to white people, and then made them totally immune from consequences.) In 1874 an unnamed clerk of the Congress was tasked with copying The Congressional Record of 1871 into the Federal Register. That clerk illegally removed a 16 word clause from the law, creating the confusion in the ruling of Harlow V Fitzgerald more than 100 years later.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/05/15/us/politics/qualified-immunity-supreme-court.html
Hopefully this can be raised on April 25th, and we can get that ruling overturned.
omg, haven't read it yet but that is horrifying.
That's the thing, though. SCOTUS had decided that the purpose of the police is to protect personal property, not people.
That’s the fucking contract.
I mean, if you care about the society you're defending, sure.
I don't think we should expect people to care about a society that doesn't care about them. The more we encourage and enable leeching, the more leeches we will find.
Most cops (and people) take the job just to get paid. They don't actually want to shoot anyone. They don't actually want to 'try' or put themselves in harm's way.
They just wanna collect a paycheck and go home so they can shitpost on the internet and watch dumb current year cinema.
Finally. Should’ve done it 18-months ago.
One of the parents said the chief took the easy way out by resigning. “Veronica Mata, whose 10-year-old daughter, Tess, was killed at Robb Elementary, said of the chief's resignation, ‘He would rather resign than fire his friends. It was an easy way out.’ “ Absolutely sickening all around. My heart goes out to these families. They deserve better.
He does it now because the independent review came out and basically exonerated them, so now he can get a position elsewhere with a 'clean' record. Plenty of places hire shady police leaders because they are easier to use for fascist purposes with their heads that far up their own asses
With america having all those guns and useless police im honestly suprised a parent who lost all their kids with nothing left to lose didnt go get some good ol fashioned revenge on the police for being hopeless.
Rambo style
I thought 2022 was a typo but nope, time vortex instead
That must've been one cushy job.