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For example, Mystique being transgender and Morph being non-binary.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did you not watch the 2000's X-Men movies that were thinly veiled gay rights discussions?

Or the original comics which were anti-religious persecution comics?

Or the entire history of X-Men being treated like minorities targeted by conservative society and pulpit bangers?

It's literally the core of the comic.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It really isn’t about conservative society. It’s about society in general. Stan lee was against intolerance which isn’t tied to any political platform.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

intolerance which isn’t tied to any political platform.

Except for the GOP platform. Being anti gay, anti trans, etc is all wrapped up in it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Cite where in the platform it says anything like that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

https://prod-static.gop.com/media/Resolution_Platform.pdf

See the sections on "Defending Marriage", and "Marriage, Family, and Society"

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That document seems to be corrupted. All I see is they want marriage to be defined as a man and a woman. I can't copy and paste out of it for some reason, and I can't even open it in a browser.

Is that your earth-shattering evidence? That is from 2016, but it is the current platform. I suspect that will change as people really don't care anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

they want marriage to be defined as a man and a woman

Exactly.

Is that your earth-shattering evidence?

It crossed my mind to link more, but I knew you wouldn't even be able to handle this one. Best to stick to one at a time, lest you ignore the rest as you often do.

That is from 2016, but it is the current platform.

If it doesn't represent the GOP, then they shouldn't have it on their site. They chose to keep it up because that bigotry hasn't changed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Since when is Mystique trans?

But more importantly, why should we care? People and society change, pop culture is nothing more than a reflection of that. As long the writing is good and the character is interesting, then maybe we should stop being so fucking concerned about the gender identity of completely fictional characters.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

It appears it was a plot twist recently but can’t say that makes her trans. I don’t know how to do spoilers, so I’ll let you google it. It’s a change in the continuity

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

X-Men has always tried to talk about social issues.

I haven't read a comic since childhood, but it would be a natural progression for the X-Men.

Comics were woke before woke was a thing but with a conservative twist.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (2 children)

X-Men has always tried to talk about social issues.

And it always failed, spectacularly.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The problem with xmen is fundmental. They are weapons. Its not skin color or sexuality or anything, they are living weapons, and the metaphor falls flat before it ever stands up.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. There are mutants many thousands of times more dangerous than atomic bombs. There are mutants the fundamentally subvert the basics of society like free will. To look at it and say "this is just like black people" is, Uhh, questionable at best

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

It wasn't there are just like black people. It was more about society pushing out anyone who was different, like black people.

Oddly Stan was a Democrat and they were the most racist ones in the room. So I am not sure why Stan was a Democrat.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago

I don't think so. I always thought it did a good job of it. I was never meant to be in your face woke crap. It was meant to enforce tolerance.

Stan Lee was a jew, non-practicing but still a jew. He saw the horrors of WW2. I don't know if that shaped his views on tolerance but I suspect it did.