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I myself am really on the fence about this.

I hate what Reddit has done, as I was removed as a moderator on my sub. But I much prefer the UI to Lemmy so far. I’m also having a hard time understanding how this all works. I was familiar with Reddit, and it is obviously a way more active community.

But I also used Apollo and hate how they’ve done him so dirty.

Will you guys return if Reddit rights it’s wrongs?

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Lemmy will continue to improve and Reddit will flush itself further down the toilet.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Nope, being an open source and privacy zealot I wanted to switch to Lemmy well before anyone cared about it. But I deleted my account because it had like twenty active people on it at most. Now that it's gaining users I'm definitely staying. I wasn't very active on Reddit for quite a while anyway, discussion grew repetitive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Sure. In the same vein, I'll go back to twitter if elon musk somehow restored it to the way it was before before his purchase.

Neither scenario will happen, of course. But if we're talking about hypotheticals, I wouldn't have an issue returning.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

No. It's a pain in the butt to migrate from Reddit, but it's a blessing in disguise. The decentralized approach is much better and more future proof against bad actors. Having 1 site (or person) holdng all the cards is not something that should appeal to anyone.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's definitely a wait and see situation. My Reddit account is gone, so if Lemmy continues to grow I see no reason why I'd go back. If Lemmy dies, then obviously I wouldn't have anywhere else to go.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I also deleted my main accounts. I'm not going back. I don't care how much back peddling reddit do. I'm gone and here is my new home.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. This whole Fediverse feels like Reddit did in the beginning. Real conversations. Real sense of community. No pointless bloat or mindless repetition. I started actually participating because I'm not drowned out with a million ridiculous generic comments minutes after a post. Reddit will undoubtedly continue, but not with me as a part of it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

This right here. For the past few years everyone on reddit just talks past each other in a race for karma. Rarely does anything with value break through the sea of memes and shitposts. If nothing else I'm enjoying the smaller scale here. I'm seeing and reading actual news articles again instead of the content pandering to the lowest common denominator

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

Nope! I've now realised all centralised platforms are doomed to enshittification. I'm here for the long haul.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

No I like it here better. The community is better. It's less toxic. Feels like the old internet again

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 years ago

not at this point. spaz has been very stupid in how hes handled this. im not saying i wont go back but itll be a while and take a serious mea culpa.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I'm on the fence because, like it or not, reddit is still a useful resource. At least, for now, it is.

I used Apollo. This situation opened my eyes. It's time to find a new place to call home, so to speak.

It will take a minute to learn Lemmy. I'm always into exploring a new site, tho!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I haven't really left reddit yet but I would probably not leave if they backtracked.

That said, I would still use Lemmy too. Probably more than reddit.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I deleted my 17 year old account. There's no going back, even if Reddit did backtrack it would be temporary. The enshitification has started and can't be stopped.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Probably worth checking if it stayed deleted. A lot of people are saying their accounts, comments, posts etc got restored.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I may go back for casual browsing of the news and some of the niche communities that don't have a community here. But even though reddit will definitely be around, the damage is already done with people having deleted/edited their posts and comments. I wouldnt trust them to not try this stupid shit again once they get complacent.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I like Kbin, and will certainly remain active.

But if the board were to remove Huffman for his incompetence and put an alternative, non-brain dead plan in place, I would at least stop deliberately shunning Reddit

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I don't think so. Reddit was lost years ago, and I'm not willing to create a new account just because they rolled back their API changes. They won't, anyways.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

That's a negatory Ghost Rider.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I'm done with the site, but I will continue looking at and posting on it, and these things aren't really in conflict. It just means that I'm not going to put forward the kind of energy that I do to posting here. The same is basically true of Twitter since Elon: I made a long statement on my largest account there, and never posted again, just occasionally looked in and saw less and less on the feed each time. I still use an account for crypto Twitter, because crypto Twitter doesn't want to leave.

Regardless of what these execs say in public statements, the balloon has sprung a leak, and the open Internet is back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No. The enshittification will progress regardless. Iβ€˜ve seen this often enough.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Simply returning to the status quo from a little over a week ago wouldn't be enough. I'd need to see a real commitment to making the platform better.

Step one would be spez stepping down.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No. Reddit's enshitification started a long time ago. This is just the catalyst. Corpo-stooges can get bent

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No.

There are two medical subs I care about and that have been reluctant to keep protesting or moving people over to Lemmy. For those I will probably compile Infinity with my own API key. But I will unsub from everything else.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nope, the wells been poisoned. Even if they did a full 180 and Fired Spez for good measure, they've shown their hand. How long before they do it again? Even if all of this was %100 Spezs idea and everyone else in the company opposed it, could we really trust the replacement to never try this or anything similar again? How long before the next CEO decides to try again? What Reddit as a company has proven is that they can't be trusted, and what we as a community have proved with switching over to Kbin and Lemmy is that we don't need Reddit. We can make the same content and have the same or in some cases better communities and the beauty of doing it on a platform like this? A greedy corporation can't destroy it again. Even if a major instance owner goes rogue, we pick up move to another instance and keep going no need to learn a new site no need to rebuild communities. A simple "I'm moving over to this instance!" And that's it

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Not me. For me it's half a matter of principle, but I'm also liking the fact that I don't waste as much time doomscrolling

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

No, current reddit management has shown their true colors.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Reddit will get increasingly worse the moment they go public, even if they backpeddal on all of the BS (and they did to some extent), I'm already envisioning several Twitter/Twitch/YouTube-like anti-user monetization features that will trickle down one by one over the years. The owners and admins have shown their true colors, there is no undoing that.

If it weren't for how rough (and personally, confusing) Lemmy is right now, I wouldn't even consider going back. But if the growth stalls, and communities remain super small, I might hop back, which is why I haven't deleted my content and account over there yet.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

I remember reddit being super confusing when I started using it, it clickex in time - I assume it will click here as well.

The main issue for me is the communities are much smaller, as well as the userbase - which means some communities straight up don't exist here, because there is not many people interested and even less willing or able to create them.

I didn't burn any bridges with reddit, but certainly plan to spend my time here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Personally I've found the Lemmy experience perfectly ok. I went from never having heard of it to being up and running and having the general gist of it in about 30 minutes. Is it a commercial grade polished product? No. But it works just fine, gives me content to browse, and isn't some horrible humanity grinder in search of profit. If people keep joining the content will follow, just need to be patient and contribute (note to self, I should post something instead of lurking).

As some others have mentioned elsewhere having a slight barrier to entry might slow down the influencers migrating over too. We can but hope.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Nah. That ship has sailed. I enjoy learning new things, and was never a reddit power user, so I'll just get more and more familiar with lemmy and stay here.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If Kbin and Lemmy keep being this active I'm sticking around here. I'm really enjoying it at this level. More so than Reddit. But if this place dies AND Reddit is less scummy for a while, I might go back.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

Friendship ended with Reddit users, now fedverse users are my new best friend(s).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

If I can’t use Apollo I’m done for anything other than when a Reddit post is a web-search result.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 years ago

It's hard to say for me. What about next time they do something like this? It Seems like only a matter of time before they do. Maybe it would just be better to build and support this platform then deal with their nonsense anymore

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