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From the article: OLED and MicroLED are the future

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 1 year ago (9 children)

Now if I could just a "dumb" TV that doesn't have a bunch of built in apps, which apparently is now a huge ask. I just want my TV to display whatever HDMI port is currently selected. Not nag me about connecting it to WiFi every time I turn it on.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

But then how would they get that sweet sweet metric data they can resell? Think of the megacorps!

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

and not spy on me

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Look into commercial displays. They are meant for store fronts and guest areas. These screens are typically built a bit more robust than consumer TVs. They may only have one of each input ports, may lack soundboard and built-in tuners, but they have sleeker designs and lack smartTV bloatware. You may need more peripheral equipment for the screen to function as a home use TV. Just do a little research and see if this works for your setup.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I might look into this for a table to play Pathfinder and D&D on. I've been looking for a cheap, durable, no frills display to build a table around.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

This might not be a solution that fits your needs, but personally this is why I buy computer monitors instead of TVs now

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think there are expensive models that come without any software shit. However I simply "gave up" and don't connect the TV to any network. It doesn't see a network cable and won't get my wifi credentials. Therefore it neither needs nor receives updates. Everything "smart" is done by an attached Kodi box and a FireTV stick, which I both can exchange when their time is up.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have been reading about MicroLEDs for years now, never bought any OLED because of the burn-in. I'm curious when MicroLEDs will actually hit the mass-market and at what price-point and also how they will scale for smaller screens.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I've had my QD-OLED for a little while now and it has had quite a bit of static images on it without any trouble. From what I read before I bought it, OLEDs in general really don't have a burn-in issue like the early models did.

From what I can tell they're better than even plasma was at the end. And you'd have trouble actively trying to get permanent burn in on some later model plasmas. I used to service TVs and appliances. In most cases outside of using a plasma display for digital signage, I'd be able to run a swiping pattern for a little bit to get rid of the image retention. The only exception I really had for a plasma that was used in a residence was an older couple who didn't have a widescreen source and only watched shows in 4:3 aspect ratio. They finally got the HD channels from their TV provider and realized they had the bars on the sides burned in (really the screen aged unevenly).

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

wow, this whole comments thread is just like reddit. love it, keep the faith ya'll!!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

It’s only been a few days and things are looking up

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Can they please just bring back actual buttons instead of invisible tap points where you can't tell where the fuck they are?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

These days most tvs have the "nipple" navigation which initially seems stupid but is genuinely the most natural navigation system I've ever used

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

No. You'll suffer the invisible tap points because they can advertise that feature and ship more units.

How do you fuck up televisions? It's the simplest thing and these corporations just need to fucking meddle.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I am going to skip LCD tvs altogether. Right now I am still using my first hd tv, a Plasma TV from 2008, and when I replace it, it will likely be with an OLED.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

OLED's are just the way to go.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I'd love to have an OLED tv. I just need a good reason to get one. The tv I have now works just fine (unfortunately).

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Same, I have a plasma and it works great, doesn't even know what HD ready means, but displays 1080i.

As long as HD is the max res the TV box gives, I don't see reason for an upgrade. (especially for a luxury item that is mostly background noice/movement)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

I, too, won’t replace something until it dies. Even if an upgrade is long overdue.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Mine flickers when room temp is above 75 and gets jacked at 78.

The G3 is looking extremely appealing in all dimensions except price.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

An "accidental" hammering can fix that real quick like.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Or just break out the old Wii Sports and "forget" the wrist strap.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man I'm still rocking my Samsung plasma TV from 2011. No need to heat the house with the amount that TV gives off but still works great.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I have an old Viera 50 inch Plasma, it chews like 240W while running but has not skipped a beat in the 13 years we've had it

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I had a viera for 14 years. For 1080p content it beats my OLED. Better motion and better pixel alignment. But it died a third time. And I decided I didn’t want to look for parts or break out my soldering iron the 3rd time. It was my gym/garage tv at that point I I rarely used it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aren't MicroLED displays LCDs?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

No, you’re thinking of LCDs with miniLED backlighting

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

That's great, it means LCD TVs have hit maturation point.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Makes sense. I haven’t considered an LCD tv in more than a decade.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I bought a QLED LCD 8k Samsung in 2019 and tbh it’s an incredible display because of its high nit count, local dimming zones and AI upscaler.

I’m a bit out of the loop, can these new technologies go to that resolution yet?

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

LCD TVs can still improve via faster refresh rates, strolling backlights, and smaller local dimming zones. If the last part can be made small enough, then it would be very hard to tell the difference between an LCD screen and a emissive display. These facts shouldn't be ignored by display companies.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The problem is that we are reaching a point where it is cheaper to achieve the same or better results with OLED or microLED than by dumping even more money into improving LCD.

We are already at a point where OLED provides a straight up better value than LCD in higher end price brackets as long as peak brightness is not your #1 priority.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I'm going to have see a display that truly solves the burn-in problem before making that proclamation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dimming zones creat halo affects when there white next to black. Source: typing on my 12.9 iPad lcd with dimming zones.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

The smaller the dimming zones, the lesser this effect becomes. Theoretically, you can have dimming zones of just 1 pixel in size. People have even "succeeded" in doing this by bonding two LCD panels together, with one acting as the local dimming solution.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Wow it's insane how fast technology goes. Feels like yesterday the first LCDs were releasing, but apparently not!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nothing beats 2000's 2K CRTs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I really hope microLED takes off in the near future. It's basically OLED on steroids, all of its advantages without the risk of screen burn-in. It's just too expensive right now...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What about Hisense with the U8H Class are they using microled(they call it miniled)? this Tv is not that expensive compared with other brands and tbh the image quality in the high-end models are awesome.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

MicroLED requires each pixel to be its own light source (same with OLED). MiniLED is marketing for a fairly dense array of backlight zones on an LCD panel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

thanks for the info!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Fair enough. LCD is very old technology at this point, dating back to the 1960s.

Of course, LEDs aren't exactly new either, but microscopic LEDs bright enough to be used as pixels certainly are.

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