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“It’s so hard to get movies made, and in these big movies that get made — and it’s even starting to happen with the little ones, which is what’s really freaking me out — decisions are being made by committees, and art does not do well when it’s made by committee,” she added. “Films are made by a filmmaker and a team of artists around them. You cannot make art based on numbers and algorithms. My feeling has been for a long time that audiences are extremely smart, and executives have started to believe that they’re not. Audiences will always be able to sniff out bullshit. Even if films start to be made with AI, humans aren’t going to fucking want to see those.”

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[–] [email protected] 160 points 8 months ago (4 children)

The real lesson here is never be in a Sony superhero movie. 9 times out of 10 they fuck it up.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Is it some sort of scam where they have to make the movie or they lose the rights to them? I can't think of any other reason for shit like Morbius.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yep. If you watched madam web you will clearly know how bad the movie looks. The spider lotus fan film is better than madam web. That's how bad it is. Morbius atleast had decent visuals.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (2 children)

How long will I have to wait before someone says "it's webbin time" cause i don't think I can handle that kind of disappointment

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (6 children)

But when they get it right they really get it right. The whole Miles Morales storyline came out of no where and fucking exploded.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 8 months ago (2 children)

In my mind it was great because it was an animation and execs think anime is dumb, so they won't meddle with it. If they ever make a live action Miles Morales story it's going to suck.

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[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I was originally thinking about this while looking up some background actor.

Like, for many of these folks, these shitty movies pay bills. Many aren't living a life of luxury. And if you get chosen for a Sony superhero film, And the pay is good, why not take it?

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[–] [email protected] 92 points 8 months ago (7 children)

Well, making a good superhero movie is harder than people think. At the end of the day, studios are risk adverse, and making a woman focused superhero movie is seen as riskier as it is more niche, which means they are more prone to interventions and design by committee, so it is a self perpetuating problem.

Speaking of which, Lemmy plug "Birds of Prey" (also starring some crazy clown woman) here today, in my humble and totally unbiased opinion, it's a pretty fun superhero movie that more people should watch.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Birds of Prey remains the best film to come out of the DCEU and it's a damn shame it's been slept on.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Nah, James Gunn's Suicide Squad blows it out of the water. It's definitely one of the better ones though.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago

Birds of Prey remains the best film to come out of the DCEU

Starring the best (and also the most humble) actress in the DCEU, too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I thought it was insultingly boring. Sometimes very bad. None of it made sense and the editing/pacing was trash. HQ had some good moments though, and her performance was fun-ish. The Suicide Squad was better by a country mile IMO.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

That's an insanely low bar though.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (3 children)

https://youtu.be/0Uq_5bYGYoY

While we're on the topic of female driven action movies. This one got lost at the box office because it was released in early 2020. Shame, because it's smart and exciting and doesn't follow all the 'revenge' tropes people are used to.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago (4 children)

This reminds me of SALT and The long kiss goodnight, both excellent female lead films.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Cassie died on the way back to her home planet.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I worked on that movie. I can tell you that the crew knew it was going to be a stinker for the entire time it was being made.

It was GREAT money while it lasted even though Sony was unbelievably stingy at times. We (the crew) quickly came to look at it as a box office writeoff.

As we always say,

I don't write em. I just light em.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (9 children)

Well, this is the second bad franchise she has been in.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


As she’s previously hinted during the movie’s publicity tour, Johnson said the project’s script about a paramedic with psychic powers was radically changed from what she originally read.

But sometimes in this industry, you sign on to something, and it’s one thing and then as you’re making it, it becomes a completely different thing, and you’re like, ‘Wait, what?’ But it was a real learning experience, and of course it’s not nice to be a part of something that’s ripped to shreds, but I can’t say that I don’t understand.

My feeling has been for a long time that audiences are extremely smart, and executives have started to believe that they’re not.

Even if films start to be made with AI, humans aren’t going to fucking want to see those.”

“Like, ‘Dakota Johnson Breaks Her Silence On Madame Web’s Fucking Box Office Failure,’” the actress said with a laugh.

Over the weekend, Johnson’s co-star Sydney Sweeney likewise commented about the film’s reaction while hosting NBC’s Saturday Night Live, quipping in her monologue, “You have seen me in Anyone but You and Euphoria.


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