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Yuzu will lives under new name (github.com)

submitted 10 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 141 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

I hate to be that guy, but it doesn't seem like there's anything to this fork. At least a few links in the README don't work, and the domain for the "email" is actively for sale. The owner of the repository doesn't seem to have any real previous projects on their GitHub account.

I can understand that it's a new fork, but in my mind you'd want to at least make sure the Readme is... passable before you spread the word and make a Patreon for the project.

EDIT: The Patreon link has been removed since I made this comment. I'm still incredibly skeptical of the project though

[–] [email protected] 73 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

I would say don't make a freaking patreon for it. You know what companies hate even more than people using thier IPs? Getting money while doing it.

[–] [email protected] 48 points 10 months ago

This looks like a straight cash grab. I bet the whoever owns this github won't work on it at all.

[+] [email protected] -16 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Nah fuck that, let's all make a patreon for every. single. fork.

Let's see if Nintendo's unlimited legal budget is unlimited or ISP "unlimited"

[–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They have a bunch of lawyers inhouse who do this as part of their day job. Sending a cease & desist to github and patreon costs them nothing extra, and neither of those will fight Nintendo in court to protect IP infringements.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago

Conservatively, if several thousand forks appear, they may hire an additional person and cost themselves a couple hundred thousand. Given your point, there must be a more effective way to be an attrition-based nuisance.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago

You have fun with that.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

Go ahead, be the change you want to see.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah... I looked at the project's subreddit, and I don't expect it to last long. The creator's idea of avoiding Nintendo's legal team boils down to "assert emulation is legal and condemn piracy within our dev team and community."

I don't mean to be a dick, but I don't think the guy knows what he's doing. The only way an actively-maintained fork is going to avoid the same fate is if they either give up before Nintendo cares, or:

Stripped out the code that gave Nintendo's argument validity in the first place;
Did not make money off the project; and
Stayed far the hell away from retail game emulation, focusing on perfect compatibility for homebrew entirely.

Even then, there's a good chance they're screwed either way. The original Yuzu devs agreed to Nintendo's terms of explicitly naming Yuzu as a circumvention tool. Settlements don't serve as precedent, but I suspect it's going to be extremely hard to argue that a minimal derivative of a circumvention tool is not still a circumvention tool when the original creators stated they designed it as such.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

Yep. We need a separate completely anonymous "pastebin special" program that can decrypt these games.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here is another: https://github.com/Crimson-Hawk/suyu

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

I'm sure a lot of forks will pop up right around this time. I'll be less skeptical of them once I see actual commits made to the codebase instead of things like just changing the readme

[–] [email protected] 108 points 10 months ago

Until the dust has settled, and there are a significant amount of pull request and contributions, I'm not considering this as an actual fork, it's just a repo mirror, on GitHub, which can be taken down at any moment.

[–] [email protected] 75 points 10 months ago

Forking a repo is not the same as developing it. Any idiot can rehost the existing source code, but all the developers with knowledge of the code base and project just got axed by Nintendo.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well that didn’t take long.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Yeah, lots of people forked it. But most are laying low at the moment. This one probably won't last long.

Edit: "Contribute to Nikilites/nuzu development by creating an account on GitHub." Now it kind of sounds like a honeypot.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That sounds like the default GitHub boilerplate message, to be fair.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

Yep, and if they're not behind 10 vpns and a randomly generated username then they're going to get sued into oblivion before close of business Friday

[–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago

The commit history is gone, there's a brand-new Patreon link, and most of the submodules aren't included. I find it hard to believe that developers are going to trust that it isn't a cash grab, let alone possible to even compile.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

Seems sketchy and half assed

[–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

Don’t contribute to anything right now. Lay low. Keep your source backups. Don’t pay money to some rando’s patreon

[–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago

The Hydra Effect

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

What we need to do is have an anonymous program get uploaded online that can decrypt these games with prodkeys. And then have it play these decrypted games completely removing the prodkey shit

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Whoever works on it better hide behind multiple VPNs in different countries.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 10 months ago

multiple VPNs in different countries

Is this the new seven proxies?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

It also helps to outwardly state your country of residence in a public forum.

[–] AdmiralShat 2 points 10 months ago

Isn't there already an established switch emulator that has a team? Ryujinx

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Comrade Nintendo is having Switch? Now we are having of Switch

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago

Rofl this is great 😂