This is some bullshit. Nintendo is claiming because they use prod.keys, it's only purpose is piracy. Yuzu does not include the keys and people that own the games own the key.
this post was submitted on 04 Mar 2024
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By using these keys to decrypt the games they are circumventing anti-piracy measures which is already illegal in a lot of countries. Even if no actual piracy was involved, what they are doing with the prod.keys almost guarantees them a loss in court in all of the EU and North America.
The bullies won.
Because they have money, and the independents don't. And they sure fucking know it.
Fuck Nintendo, never give them a cent.
Sad & True. Nintenbullies
Edit: I thought some more about this and Crybullies** also frames it well too.
Nintendon't
Also Nintendogs
Was Yuzu open source?
Yep
At least the source is out there then
How big or well funded is Tropic Haze?
They have the order to stop the development now.
They already deleted the repos.
Just checked for this as I was going to go grab the latest for archiving. Anyone got a Linux build they'd be happy to share?
You can still grab the latest early access build here: https://github.com/pineappleEA/pineapple-src/releases
If it's just the build you're after, you could pull the latest from Flathub. Downside being that once it's removed from Flathub it can't be installed anywhere else unless you rebuild from source...
I'm not a leach (I think some people call them attorneys or lawyers), but if they stopped development, removed the repos and all the crap Nintendo got away with, why do they have to pay? Am I missing something? Again, I've no idea how that shit works, so I'm asking out of genuine sheer ignorance. And also, can't they just move all their shit over to an "arrrr" paradise and tell Nintendo of the US of A to go fuck themselves and all of their family and pets together at the same time?
A few things:
First, the LLC settled with Nintendo. They do not have the funds to pay their debts, now, so they'll go bankrupt. The developers won't pay a cent, likely. Maybe a bit of cash left over after paying their lawyer, if there is any, but it won't amount to much.
Second, they were being sued for damages. Just stopping something after causing damages is insufficient.
Third, this isn't a judgment, it's a settlement. That means that it was their "choice" to negotiate with Nintendo instead of going to court. In the settlement, the group agreed to cease & desist and not work on Nintendo systems at all any more, basically. ~~I haven't looked into it, and I'm not as lawyer, but again I think this is just the LLC, not the individual developers? If so, this also means basically nothing at all.~~
Realistically, developers on this team likely won't continue working on Nintendo devices, because there's nothing stopping Nintendo from just using them again and facing "actual" penalties next time. But there should be very little harm to them individually for this.
And no, nothing is stopping them from continuing to work anonymously on this project on the dark web. Nintendo could never prove it, so long as they aren't so stupid as to announce it. It would take some pretty strong evidence of continued infringement to get a search warrant, I would think, so they're likely in the clear.
Them being an LLC and the dev(s) not being forever in debt were the details I was looking for – thanks.
The settlement addresses any and all people who were ever involved in any fashion with the production or distribution of yuzu. Quoting the Settlement:
against Defendant enjoining it and its members, agents, servants, employees, independent contractors, successors, assigns, and all those acting in privity or under its control
So yeah, the devs are all individually targeted, not just the LLC as its own entity. And if any of the devs is ever caught doing anything like this again, they're gonna face charges much more serious than this i fear.
Thanks for all these clarifications. This does make a lot of sense. This world is not going to shit anymore, it's already there 🤮
Not a lawyer but basically:
You make a bad thing (say burglary)
You are catched with red hands and immediatly bring it back and apologize to the owners.
You are being indicted.
In this case they admitted to be helping piracy of Nintendo games (no matter if it's actually true or not). They settled on a sum to pay back and were ordered to halt development work forever in their lives with anything regarding emulation, nintendo and their products.
Yeah. I guess Nintendo frightened them enough to just say that they are an accessory to infringement. This just keeps getting sadder.
Small enough this probably ends them
It seems that it does, in fact, end them.
Any clean mirrors of the emulators from before it went down ?