For those who didn’t read the article no, he wasn’t charged for being a misogynist incel. He was charged for plotting a mass murder.
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What's up with the fucking title of this post then?
Genco wrote in his manifesto that his goal was, “the death of what I have been deprived of most, but also cherished and fantasize at the opportunity of having but has been neglected of; Women. I will slaughter out of hatred, jealousy, and revenge.”
Because he is misogynist incel, but that is not a crime. Just like being racist is not a crime, but planing a race based murder spree is. The title is giving context to his motivation for planning a crime instead of simply listening "man accused of planning murder and hate crime".
It's the title of the article.
For those who didn't understand the article, yes, he was charged with a hate crime for the misogyny part of the plot.
Man, even as fucked up as we teens were in the 80s, we didn't have incels. Anyone talking like that would have been shunned, at the least. They simply wouldn't have a voice, let alone echo chambers to back them up.
That's a good perspective to remember and shows the impact of social media. It concentrates good and bad alike.
We absolutey had incels. They were just as angry, but they included society in general for their problems and trash talked women, they just didn’t have the focused echo chambers we have today that let them run the mental gymnastics that placed so much blame on women. They didn’t have the incel label to wrap around themselves. They more or less became shut-ins living at home getting drunk and/or stoned, so yeah, they absolutely were shunned.
If you take a few minutes and actually think about your high school and the few years following I bet you’ll remember a few people that fit the bill.
For some reason killing a bunch of people because incel rage hadn’t entered the zeitgeist; even though workplace shootings did happen they weren’t remotely on the scale of mass shootings we have today.
This is simply not true, the thing is back then not every single sensationalist story got past local.
They weren't called incels at the time because that word wasn't created yet, but every school had that strange kid that would do incel-y behaviors.
You forget about Screech?
Which is funny because Zack did a hell of a lot more incel-like behaviors, but because he's handsome he gets a pass.
Like the cubicle meme.
How you gonna have a bomb ass name like Tres Genco and not get laid?
Always wondered WTF about Americans just wanting to make an excuse to do a massive shotting of any bullshit..
Good that punk got out of the streets, but really? Having so much reasons to do a massive shotting and some people planning to do it cos women rejected them? LMAO.
I know you can buy guns but are not they supposed to be for self-protect?
Can't imagine living in a constant fear of being caught in a massive shotting.
You keep saying mass-shot and it makes me think you're talking about using buckshot or birdshot in a shotgun.
Can't imagine living in a constant fear of being caught in a mass-shot.
We don't though. If you live near one, you might be a bit spooked for a few weeks or months, but eventually, it goes away and you stop thinking about it.
Fixed mate thx for the feedback I'm not from the US, anyway I understand y'all just get used to it.
It's like someone from Germany hearing there was a shooting in Portugal. That's terrible, but not really that close to me, not in my state. You just deal with it and go on. Overall the risk of being in a car accident fatality is way higher than the risk of being shot, and there are more cars on the road than ever.
That title is just so bad. he was ploting to murder a bunch of women, that's why he is being sent to prison, not his shitty but protected views.
That title is just so bad. he was ploting to murder a bunch of women, that’s why he is being sent to prison, not his shitty but protected views.
Do you understand what a hate crime is? What do you think is relevant to someone being charged with a federal hate crime? Please be specific.
A criminal offense against a person or property motivated in whole or in part by an offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, ethnicity, gender, or gender identity.
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