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Hundreds chant "No to War!" at Navalny's funeral in Moscow. (streamable.com)
submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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"No war!" at the Borisovsky cemetery in Moscow

Video: BBC Russian Service

https://t.me/astrapress/49752

“He was not afraid, and we are not afraid!”, “Yulia, we are with you,” chant those who came to ask for Navalny.

https://t.me/pravdaGerashchenko_en/31006

The crowd chants "Putin is a murderer!" - Russian media.

https://t.me/astrapress/49785

“Putin killed him, but didn’t break him,” - this is the poster hung on a tree on Borisovskie Prudy Street

https://t.me/astrapress/49791

“Bring the soldiers home!”, “Ukrainians are good people,” chant those gathered at the Borisov cemetery

People also turned on flashlights in memory of Navalny.

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[–] [email protected] 57 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Very risky time now for Russia. These kind of things can be the spark that leads to more civil unrest, open protests and revolts. 2 weeks till election... May Putin live in interesting times.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago

I like your euphemistic phrasing

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago

Yeah, wonder if he too has a Walther PPK 7.65 ...

[–] [email protected] 51 points 6 months ago (3 children)

This is why Putin is afraid of the elections. Not because he needs to adhere to the result, but because it can be a catalyst for protests. And protests are a feedback loop where the more people are protesting, the more safe it is for more people to also protest. I hope the Russian people can get rid of their leaders and stop the war they don't want.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 6 months ago

The 'election' is really to show everybody that Putin is roughly representing the will of the Russian people. As soon as that goes away, it becomes much easier not only to protest, but also to coupe aganinst Putin.

So far it has been a massive failure. 100k signatures for an anti war canidate and now Nawalny causing trouble. Even worse not nationalist Nawalny, but one that can not say anything stupid.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@JohnDClay @LaFinlandia
The vast majority of Russians support the war and Putin.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

The vast majority of Russians respond to polls saying they support the war and Putin. The actual margin is much more thin. But unfortunately there are still many many Russians who support the war.

Edit: here's a video explaining the phenomenon https://youtu.be/WrO5-fXTbYs

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

@JohnDClay
The two fundamental of Russian thinking.
1, Suffering is inescapable, and must be accepted.
2, A strongman leader is always best, even if he does terrible things to us.

These beliefs have been a constant throughout one thousand years of Russian history

Sure, not every Russian agrees with those beliefs, but the number of those who don't, are so small, as to be effectively zero.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@JohnDClay Not 'many.' Most.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Where are you getting that? Polls as I said aren't a great indicator since people are afraid.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 6 months ago

Looks like some idiot created a martyr. Good to see this. Hopefully it leads to Putler getting wrecked.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Looks more like thousands than hundreds? That's an impressive turnout.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Thousands in a city of thirteen million isn't great

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

@tunetardis @LaFinlandia
Statistically insignificant.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Over 10k reportedly, with obstacles in place. For Russia where everyone there could be jailed, disappeared, or sent to the front line as cannon fodder, this is about as statistically significant as anything we've seen since the early days of the war

[–] [email protected] 11 points 6 months ago

Yeah, my thinking on this is that a hundred people can be rounded up and disappeared or whatever, but when you tack an extra 0 or two on that number, this becomes impractical. And once people see that 10k people got away with it, that number could mushroom in any further public gatherings.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

@fluxion
More significant than what we've seen so far.
Lets see what happens.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You don't have to mention people when replying to them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago

Its the norm on mastodon. It definitely clutters up Lemmy threads, but they dont see it as odd.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But significant.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

@rah
True. Statistics are not everything.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hundreds is great but they need hundreds of thousands...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Nope, that's not enough and not how it works.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Slava Ukraini

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

@OKaybin @LaFinlandia
Heroyam Slava.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Massive Turnout at Navalny's Funeral Despite Obstacles from the Kremlin, people shouting 'no to war' and 'Putin is a killer' (article includes videos)

In a powerful display of solidarity and defiance, over 10,000 individuals gathered outside a church in Moscow today for the funeral of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny. Chanting slogans such as "Alexei" and "We are not afraid," mourners paid their respects to Navalny, who died in prison on February 16.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Vladimir Kara-Murza is easily a better option.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago

Blatant misrepresentation of his position. You probably also love mentioning his "cockroaches" video while ignoring the immigration issues, terrorism and problems with Chechnya as the context of the time, as well as not mentioning his second video released at around the same time where he explicitly calls out the far right and argues against violence. Navalny explained multiple times that he attends the march in an attempt to make it better and steer it away from senseless violent rhetoric of those who are cut into the video you posted inbetween clips with him. You mentioned that you speak Russian fluently, so here's his interview from 2011 where he explains his position regarding nationalism in more detail.

And before you mention it:

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Hey, it's just like that episode of Star Wars Andor!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

I thought the same thing but decided that maybe I shouldn't say it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

From what I've seen from the cemetery I'd say thousands of people easily. Seeing these Patriots willing to come out gives me a modicum of hope for Russia.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

Not surprised the links are down.

[–] [email protected] -5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

most shouted "russia without putin". lets go big: world without russia!

the russian shitnation has caused so much trouble around the world. sometimes countries (like germany where i live) need to take a break by being broken.

i think there is no need for a russian nation if their ppl are so weak and brainwashed like right now. nothing is lost with russia. no culture, no good sportsmen, no products...there is nothing specifically russian that is of value. buy oil/gas elsewhere. russia is just obsolete. wipe belarus too while youre at it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Remember the times the country where you live caused everyone troubles?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

well i am too young for that but we got history classes and so we saw enough videos and being happy about nürnberg. lets hope there will be a nürnberg for the russian agressor.