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Yes, I know that it still exist, and yes, decentralized currency which utilizes distributed, cryptographic validation is not actually a strictly bad idea, but...

Is the speculative investment scam, which crypto substantially represented, finally dead? Can we go back to buying gold bars and Pokemon cards?

I feel like it is, but I'm having a hard time putting my finger on why it lost its sheen. Maybe crypto scammers moved on to selling LLM "prompts?" Maybe the rug just got pulled enough times that everyone lost trust.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago

I'm having a hard time putting my finger on why it lost its sheen

Oh I don't know maybe it has something to do with Sam Bankman-Fried swindling $8 billion.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (13 children)

No. Bitcoin is the future of money. It really is the best form of money humanity has invented so far. People just need to stop trading shit coins.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Do you use Bitcoin in real life?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Do you use any gold in real life to pay for stuff?

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Not dead, just sleeping. It's a tougher, higher interest-rate market which cuts out a lot of the gambling behavior. I remain invested but my principle has shifted away from the financial and trad-economic terms to this:

Blockchains are valuable where they secure valuable information. Therefore, if a blockchain adds more valuable information, it becomes more valuable.

And that's it. You don't have to introduce markets and trading to make the point, but it positions those elements in a supporting role, and gets at one of the most pressing issues of today: where should our sources of truth online start? Blockchains can't solve the problems of false sensation, reasoning or belief, but they fill in certain technical gaps where we currently rely on handing over custody to someone's database and hoping nothing happens or they're too big to fail. It's just a matter of aligning the applications towards the role of public good, and the air is clear for that right now.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Crypto scams burnt up all their market, i.e. pretty much everyone who was going to get into the crypto bubble, did. You can tell because crypto went mainstream, buying stadiums and advertising through Matt Damon.

So when the bubble burst that time, there's no one left to start a new bubble with.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Crypto is dead, long live bitcoin.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago

Maybe crypto scammers moved on to selling LLM “prompts?”

The A.I. "Grift Shift" is Underway

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I use crypto for its real intention, as money. I buy my groceries with crypto and pay most of my bills in crypto on a monthly basis. Crypto itself is not a problem. Its the FTX's and Mt Gox's of the world trying to graft old banking norms onto crypto that is the majority of the problem. "not your keys, not your coins." Exchanges are like gas station bathrooms, you go in, do your business, and get the heck out. You dont just hang around.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Your bank being named "Magic the gathering online exchange" really should have been a red flag..

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Right! I practice what i preach. I put fiat in an exchange, wait a few days for it to clear, biy crypto, and take the crypto off the exchange into a wallet i fully control

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cryptography? No it's not, any more than math is dead.

Cryptocurrency? I don't know.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

@[email protected] It's called a bear market. Every 3-4 years, it's the same thing. Patience...​:blobcatthinksmart:​

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

It's definitely not dead. Market cycles come and go. It's just a matter of time until the next round.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

No, it'll never go away, fortunately or unfortunately depending on your perspective.

[–] JackbyDev 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It will never die. I believe it will wax and wane over the years. Being incredibly anonymous and deregulated means it will always be a great place for the evil doers to manipulate the market and make money off of it. Because of that there will always be some people using it.

I think one of the biggest failings of cryptocurrency in general is that people view it as a replacement for cash or debit cards when in reality with how slow and expensive the transactions are it is more of a replacement for clearing houses. When you get money sent to your bank you can use it right away because the bank trusts you and provides that service but the money isn't truly there yet. You may have heard the phrase of "the check cleared" or something similar. It takes a long time for those processes to complete and crypto is faster than it.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

I think really it just hit some kind of critical mass where people lost interest. Like streaming services: at first there was one (Netflix) and everyone wanted it, then there were a few and there was one for everyone, then there were too many and people just got sick.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (2 children)

In the US each time crypto is traded it needs to be reported.

I got free crypto from Coinbase. Then sent it to a wallet, then sold it. So each transaction needed to be reported. It’s too troublesome to be worth it.

Also, if I buy crypto, they have a week hold before I can move it. My idea was to buy crypto in country A and sell it in country B to quickly transfer money between the two countries I live in. Also it would help me beat the bank fees.

But the 7 day hold kinda defeats the purpose of quickly transferring money.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago

This is good for Bitcoin.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

as long as there are easily accessible networks with money on them there will be scammers to try and exploit them, this is no different than what we have seen with fiat, the biggest difference being that usually you have to use cash only to put out a shingle and be shady. Crypto allowed anyone to "look" legit and have easy access to settlement.

if anything people are learning WHY you want to at minimum control the ramps and ensure there are channels through which there can be trade using strong identity systems. next phase of crypto will look a bit more grown up as it will very likely be coming to the party as an enabler of multiple VRF style auth systems, helping break dependance on social login systems.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Most people are shifting towards the AI trend instead. Read a post which somewhat describes it well, people integrate the new trends into their projects to get more investor money. Nothing looks better to investors other than 'We have AI Blockchain nano technology behind our service'.

Last year, 'we have blockchain' earned lots of money. Now it's 'we have AI'. In both cases, the technology probably isn't needed, it is there just to be there.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago

as long as there are suckers out there, crypto will live.

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