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(skeletor is leading by example by adding that unnecessary apostrophe...)

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[–] [email protected] 100 points 8 months ago (7 children)

From many years of experience on the interwebs, I can recommend this password:

NUL,\t.;TAB\n\x07^C

It's very secure and works most of the time. I use it for everything.

[–] [email protected] 56 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Just changed my password to this, thanks!

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago (2 children)

hunter2

Wow, what a coincidence, my password is ******* too!

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[–] noli 27 points 8 months ago (4 children)

You clearly don't use this one, don't you know lemmy instances automatically censor your ********?

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 8 months ago (8 children)

While you're adding commas, learn how apostrophes work.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 8 months ago (2 children)

That's not an apostrophe, it's a comma floating away.

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I use it to signify "here come's an S!"

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

I u'se it to 'signify "here come's an 'S!"*

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 8 months ago (7 children)

My main problem with passwords is the limits that sites put on what I can set for a password.

I could not tell you how many times I reset my password using my password manager, then immediately log out, and log in using the credentials I just saved into my password manager, and they don't work, because the site is truncating the password to 15/20/whatever characters.

The number of times this limitation is not clearly stated, checked for, or even acknowledged by the site is too damn high.

I've made it a habit of testing a login after every password set/reset to ensure I don't have trouble with it in the future.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 8 months ago (9 children)

The amount of websites that limit passwords to 16 characters is alarming

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[–] [email protected] 50 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Funny, but csv values are quote encapsulated and special character escaped.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Common CSV parsers don't require it and I've seen plenty of examples of unquoted CSV cells (which, given there's no actual standard for the format, isn't too surprising). Hell I've created my fair share while throwing together ad hoc datasets. The idea that some of these dumps might be made by folks who are too careless to properly quote and escape their CSV data isn't hard to believe at all.

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[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago

When you're lucky your data provider has high standards.

[–] [email protected] 43 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The CSV cells are escaped with quotes. So just maybe throw some quotes in too. Unbalanced for style points. It won't defeat a CSV library, but might break a script kiddie

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[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If you include ;",// you can mess with a wide variety of formatting.

[–] [email protected] 32 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

'; DROP TABLE `passwords`; --

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There was a (really short-lived) shady car dealership that used to have an A-Frame sign that they must’ve paid to get printed.

It said “Your approved”.

My approved?

I imagine someone must’ve mentioned it to them, because they replaced it not much later.

The new sign said “Everyones Approved”.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (5 children)

Use a password like MARCH1 so that Excel will change it when the data is loaded.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The CSV specification (RFC-4180) is pretty clear. If a value contains commas, you wrap it in double quotes. If the value contains double quotes, you double each double quote to indicate its part of the value and not the end of the value.

A properly formatted CSV should have no problems from Skeletor!

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There's no formal spec for CSV. The RFC you mentioned describes the most common behaviour observed in many implementations, but it's not a spec itself, as mentioned on the second page:

While there are various specifications and implementations for the CSV format (for ex. [4], [5], [6] and [7]), there is no formal specification in existence, which allows for a wide variety of interpretations of CSV files. This section documents the format that seems to be followed by most implementations:

Also, my understanding is that double quotes are only used for strings. Commas can appear outside of strings, for example in numbers in countries that use them as a decimal point. That's actually why many implementations use semicolons or tabs as the separator.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 8 months ago (5 children)

While on the topic, this isn't how passwords work in systems.

Passwords are stored as one way hashes. So it's cryptoed only in one direction, it's lossy, and can't be recovered back to the original password.

When you log on, your cleartext PW is hashed in ephemeral memory/storage and then the cleartext password is thrown away.

That hash is compared to the hash in the DB. If the hash matches, then you have access. If it doesn't, then your PW is incorrect.

[–] [email protected] 92 points 8 months ago (2 children)

It's now how passwords work in good systems

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Sure, but the comic isn't talking about legit password usage systems. It's talking about how a comma could break the csv formatting of a csv file that came from a data breach and dump.

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

cryptoed

Unless you were looking for a sick rhyme for tiptoed, try encrypted.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Security advice: Just use URLs/links as password. Until next time!

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Remove apostrophes from your plural words, they show possession, not plurality. Until next time.

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