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This is just peak enshittification at this point.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We anticipate that this change will reduce average wait times for free users over time.

Yes, because huge swaths of people will no longer be using it.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 8 months ago

That’s probably the point. They will never make money of people who will never upgrade to a paid membership.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 8 months ago (1 children)

This is just peak enshittification at this point.

It's a free service, and a game streaming one at that...
I'm the last person to be defending companies but this one really doesn't sound unreasonable

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Wait, can I game on my old laptop?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Yeah, as long as it can run a modern version of Chrome and can decode video fast enough.

[–] [email protected] 61 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I'm honestly surprised to learn they still offer a free tier, I'm not sure why? What advantage is letting users play for free?

[–] [email protected] 41 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Standard tactic since the early 2000s. Provide a service for next to nothing by dumping insane amounts of cash into it. Competition either can't hold up or is straight up bought up. Fast forward 5 years and you're the only real player left. Then you're a monopoly and can set the prices as you see fit. Best example of this is uber, but amazon and youtube have done it too

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

There's really not any competition in the exact same line of business as them anymore. Amazon's Luna kinda? But not really, you have to buy new copies of games there - or subscribe to them. Other services like moonlight you have to host yourself.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Same reason drug dealers give out samples

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

why drug dealers? not really known for their samples except in DARE films. I think Costco would be a better example. are they doing that again btw?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

Costco stopped samples for like barely a month, at least where I was at.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

Win the race to the bottom

[–] [email protected] 45 points 8 months ago (3 children)

So much of the internet is enshittifying abuse of this moronic term enshittify.

It's fucking free. Youtube had ads before FREE videos forever ago. This isn't new. This isn't enshittifying. What an idiotic post.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

I agree with everything you're saying but also fuck Nvidia.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Isn't GeForce Now only available if you buy an Nvidia graphics card? In that case I would consider it part of the product that was sold, not a free software

Ignore my comment, GeForce experience is what I was thinking of.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They did remove GameStream though, which was GFNow but for using from your PC. Or rather GFNow was GameStream but from their PC.

And they took that out, so you couldn't stream locally any more. And not enough people called them out for that.

You can replace it with Sunshine and Moonlight if you ever find yourself wondering why an nVidia Shield won't connect to your PC.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I mean sunshine is the same thing as game stream, but better. It uses the same protocol and is much more stable for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The enshitification discourse on lemmy is fucking nuts. Service goes from you getting a gaming PC completely free, no strings attached except your play session is limited to hour, to the same thing but you see preroll ads while you queue. Any person with more than two braincells could tell it was meant to be a trial for the paid service, but of course people on here are gonna cry because they don't get free toys anymore.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That's not the point I was making in the post. I was just showing what was happening with it. I've also been a paid subscriber to it on and off; my gripe with it is that it already takes about 5 to 10 minutes to queue into the service (Priority queue for paying ofc), but with this new system it will only start to add you to the queue after you watch the pre-rolls. If it played them while you were stuck in queue, that'd be no big issue to me.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

starting March 5, 2024, members will experience up to two minutes of video sponsorship messages before each free gaming session while in queue.

I take that to mean that they are playing the ads while you're already in que waiting for your session

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ah shit, my reading literacy is terrible. Sorry about that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Happens to the best of us 👍

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago

Fuuuuuck cloud gaming

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

Umm...not enshittification. Plenty of reasons to hate on Nvidia this is not one of them.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago

I used to have the "Founders Edition" subscription tier from when GeForce Now was introduced. It was like 25$/quarter and a limited time offer for the first subscribers of GeForce Now. It was on par with the premium tier (best servers, no time limit, and best quality + ray tracing). Of course, over the years, it got degraded to second best servers, 6 hour session limit, max. 1080p and so on ... Then I quit.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Honestly, just make the free service a restricted demo. We don't need more ads.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

I wanted to try free tier, but amount of time spending to wait in line to play a game was too much.add in that it was laggy and you can't just leave and come back. Now they will get free ad space for people who didn't even try service yet due... Amount of wait time in line. But speaking as someone who is redirected to Russian servers by default (too small country to have local server of course). Wonder how free tier experience for others in "good" countries.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I didn't even know they had a free teir. I could a been playing Fortnite this whole time

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Xbox Gaming Pass allows you to play Fortnite for free too. If you have a Samsung TV it's even easier, just plug the controller on the TV.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I got an email about that too.

Not sure why because I don't think I ever got it to work.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

matter of time before they put ads in the paid tier too.

subscriptions suck.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We're talking about a gaming streaming platform. How do you think that concept could ever work without a subscription?

And frankly, adds for the free users really isn't that outrageous or surprising either. I'm mostly surprised that this wasn't the case from the start.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

this is not what im saying though.

i said this will be the first point of enshittification on the paid plan, exactly like on movie streaming platforms.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh well sorry that I took your "subscriptions suck" literally. I guess what that meant to say was "subscriptions with adds before them suck". My fault for not figuring this out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

all subscriptions eventually do price hikes and ads.

subscriptions do suck.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

And yet they are pretty much non avoidable for certain services. And some of those services are really neat.

My library subscription for example certainly is worth it. So is my public transportation subscription.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can't you just run a different driver or are all Nvidias bricks now?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

These ads are for their game streaming service, not GPU drivers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago
[–] [email protected] -5 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Ahh yes. Another reason to switch sides later this year.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (2 children)

What’s the other side for free cloud gaming?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

It’s entirely possible that I did not remember Nvidia Now was their cloud gaming service and that my comment was maybe slightly misguided by my own stupidity.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago

~~buy a Nvidia card and host it yourself~~