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When a bug tracker is inside the exclusive walled-gardens of MS Github or Gitlab.com, and you cannot or will not enter, where do you file your bug report? Here, of course. This is a refuge where you can report bugs that are otherwise unreportable due to technical or ethical constraints.

⚠of course there are no guarantees it will be seen by anyone relevant. Hopefully some kind souls will volunteer to proxy the reports.

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Some Lemmy instances (e.g. Beehaw) do not support down votes. When an instance does support down-votes, authors often get zero feedback with the down votes which ultimately supports obtuse expression, shenanigans and haters. The status quo suffers from these problems:

  • down voters do not need to read the comment they are down voting
  • down votes empower non-moderators to suppress comments and posts
  • some communities struggle to get content because of some malicious down voters who down vote every post to discourage activity and effectively sabotage the community; voting privacy shields malicious down-voters from discovery and supports their attack
  • silent down votes are non-constructive
  • some people make heavy use of down votes to suppress civil comments purely because of disagreement; other (more civil) users only use down votes to suppress uncivil dialog. This inequality ultimately manifests to reduce civility.
  • transparency: kids and adults are accessing the same forums and adults are blind as to whether down votes are coming from kids (the rationale can reveal this)

The fix:

An instance admin should be able to flip a switch that requires every down vote to collect a 1-line rationale from the voter. These one-liners should be visible to everyone on a separate page. Upvotes do not need rationale. So instance owners should have 3 configuration options:

  • down votes disabled (beehaw)
  • down votes require rationale (proposed)
  • down votes out of control (the most common status quo)

Perhaps overkill, but it might be useful if a moderator can cancel or suppress uncivil down votes.


BTW, the reason this enhancement request is not in the official bug trackers:

  • Lemmy’s bug tracker is in MS Github (#deleteGithub)
  • Kbin’s bug tracker is on codeberg, who silently deleted my account without warning or reason, and #Codeberg reg forces a graphical CAPTCHA (which fails on my non-graphical browser).

#lemmyBug #KbinBug

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