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You're wrong Alito, Congress can definitely make rules and laws to regulate you. They have the explicit authority to do that.
"The court can be trusted to self-regulate"
That's bullshit. With your unethical bribes being accepted and the bullshit rulings you've been making have proven you're an incompetent corrupt court.
It's right on the courts' info page
Although the Constitution establishes the Supreme Court, it permits Congress to decide how to organize it. Congress first exercised this power in the Judiciary Act of 1789. This Act created a Supreme Court with six justices.
I mean, these people haven't even read the laws they're supposed to be deciding cases on. You expect him to read his own website too? The privilege.
/s
You used sarcasm. Samuel Alito might not have read actual law in years. He mostly writes about the current manufactured outrage from Fox News, and tries to shoehorn that into an opinion. He's gone off-topic a few times in recent years, trying to shove culture war bullshit into cases where they're only tangentially related.
It's called Fox News Brain. Your racist uncle and a sitting Justice of the Supreme Court both have it.
What do you mean they haven't read the laws?
I think all of them were all good law students, law review editors, judicial clerks, and judges for some time, before being appointed. It's all law practice, it's all reading law. There can't be a fundamental concept of law they aren't well familiar with.
Pretty much all authority the Supreme Court has is power it has given itself. It's long overdue being reigned in.
Indeed, I posted this on another thread about the court
Thomas Jefferson to Abigail Smith Adams, September 11, 1804, "but the opinion [Marbury v Madison] which gives to the judges the right to decide what laws are constitutional, and what not, not only for themselves in their own sphere of action, but for the legislature & executive also in their spheres, would make the judiciary a despotic branch."
That had to do with size of the court.
Constitution says it's a lifetime appointment, though.
Can have all the rules you want, which the justices are free to ignore because the Constitution says it's a lifetime seat.
You just have to be creative. Pass a law saying holding a Supreme Court seat for more than 20 years is a capital crime.
But will congress enforce the rules? By enforce, I mean using the power of Impeachment and voting to convict under said Article(s) of Impeachment. Otherwise, any rules are pointless. A president can only be prosecuted after leaving office, how do prosecute a sitting supreme court justice who serves for life? Even if you did, they'd still be a sitting justice that can rule from prison since criminal conviction =/= impeachment conviction, and I'd imagine the case could go up to the very court that he/she sit in, and it only takes 4 of their collegues plus their own vote to overturn their own conviction.
In this political climate, it's practically impossible to convict a justice under the impeachment procedure.
An impeachment is not a criminal trial, the Supreme Court would have no authority to make a decision in an impeachment.
Impeachment is purely a political tool to remove nefarious actors from the government. So an impeached justice would have his spot on the bench taken away, and then would be a regular citizen who can face trial and imprisonment like any other.
If they decide to ignore that rule, it’s literally the job the of the president to have them arrested and brought before congress to face their impeachment.
I would hope if the court tried to play that hand, congress would actually start using their authority and install a new court, but I trust congress to have a spine as much as I trust my 102 year old neighbor to mow his lawn.
But don’t worry, that would be like the 3rd constitutional crisis we’ve had in 5 years. They’re getting kind of boring now anyway.
The GOP would never give up their own. They proved that with Trump. Trump would have been impeached had McConnell not gone to Trump's lawyers and told them what they needed to say after the first day of the trial. The Senate left the first day with the mindset of he has to go. McConnell told Trump's lawyer that even most R Senators were going to impeach him unless the lawyer did exactly this.
Would be interesting to see a sitting Supreme Court justice who has been impeached but not convicted.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2023/04/07/supreme-court-justice-impeached/
Archive (Paywall-Free Version): https://archive.is/IcDV5
That is a great article! Thanks for linking it, especially with the archive link.
They can, but they won’t.
No balances, only cheques I suppose
Haha. Yes. Basically they want to stay kings and Queens.
Cash rules everything around me, CREAM get the money
We the people made up the rules and we can change them in any way we want. If the supreme Court has some kind of magic that stops that they are free to deploy that but in the meantime we can assume that they are flesh bags like the rest of us.
He means absent a Constitutional amendment. And he's correct.
Congress authority is limited to saying what type of cases the court can take and how many justices there are.
Constitution says they are lifetime appointments. Can't really attach rules to that. Even if they break the rules, they are still lifetime appointments.
Only way out is death, retirement, or impeachment. I think only one justice was ever impeached.
Maybe I'm wrong but I thought the only thing the constitution says about it is "there shall be a supreme court."
Regardless, the constitution was created to be amended, and it's the states that vote on those. You know. That whole democracy thing.
Congress can impeach Alito and remove him from the bench. So, yes, they have some major muscle to flex. Unfortunately, the GOP is so corrupt, they wouldn't impeach Alito for for shooting a random stranger on 5th ave and having sex with their corpse., in broad daylight, on live TV.
There's nothing that says we have to listen to their rulings. They can simply be ignored.
Funny, the doctrine of judicial review doesn’t exist in the constitution either.
Ah, so only two of the three branches of government are subject to checks and balances?
Well... yeah. Have you seen the shit those untouchable godkings have been getting away with?
In theory, a few of them should be impeached, tried, convicted, disbarred, removed, & jailed, since lying to Congress under oath is a federal offense I'm pretty sure.
Expand and term-limit SCOTUS. This system is ridiculous
"The court has investigated the court and found no wrongdoing on the part of the court"
“The court has investigated the court, and the majority of the court found no wrongdoing on ~~our~~ the courts part.”
I do believe they have entered Fuck Around and Find Out territory
SCOTUS won't be able to do shit against a determined president. They're the most powerful branch now, but only one branch has direct access to an enforcement arm, and it isn't SCOTUS.
They better tread carefully. People are only going to become more extreme the more they continue dictating from the bench for the wealthy and corporations. They could be completely neutered as an institution.
The branch of government with lifetime appointment can't be regulated by anyone else?!? LOL
How convenient!
The only thing stopping that from happening now is that Democrats are too weak to push the issue.
Okay, who pooped💩 on the sidewalk in front of his house?
Don’t tempt me.
My dog would poop there every day
In that case, he should waive any protections he gets from congress' laws.
Well someone better regulate their silly asses cuz what they're doing now is throwing civil rights back to Jim crow.
Apparently the Supreme Court doesn't either.
Right now, Alabama is ignoring a SCOTUS ruling. So what power do they really have?
scotus rulings only apply to the underclasses, like democrats, black people, queer people and other communists.
And some state legislators believe the Independent State Legislature interpretation of the Constitution.
He and they are wrong.
So the constitution gave SCOTUS the authority to regulate women's bodies?
The court gave the court that authority.
When you think about it, the court itself has been unconstitutional since 1803 when they decided for themselves that they had the authority to decide what is and isn’t constitutional. Marbury V Madison is the case that “gave” the court the power of judicial review. A power that is not enumerated in the constitution whatsoever, and was entirely made up by the Supreme Court.
Judicial review is a bullshit system and should have been struck down with an act of congress immediately. Unfortunately, Americans have apparently always been lazy, and delegating constitutional questions to the court was seen as easier than making amendments all the time.
In short: sack the court and start again. Create a new entity for making constitutional interpretations, and make SCOTUS back into what it was supposed to be: the final court of appeals for the judicial system.