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[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

For an entire community space without any centralised leadership that lasted about one calendar month, the garden looked alright:

https://crosscut.com/environment/2020/06/seattles-chaz-community-garden-takes-root

Edit: further interesting background https://www.thestranger.com/slog/2020/06/12/43897621/meet-the-farmer-behind-chazs-vegetable-gardens

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

There was definitely a crappier looking photo than that.

It looks like an abandoned building plot, a small one.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago

Wow, 4chan would post a bad photo of something people on the left did?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I recall the one you're thinking of, but did not find it. This is a textbook case of how photography is just another aspect of journalism that can be very biased depending on what you decide to show and the context in which you place it.

For my part, isn't it more interesting to know that it was started by a scholar of energy and sustainability who used the opportunity to promote gardening skills and raise awareness of the history and politics of land use rights?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

There is a whole thing about land use rights and energy and sustainability. But just because one guy was right on that doesn't mean the whole movement wasn't a complete disaster from the start.

As much as this website hates capitalism I'm still pro capitalist. But even I admit a lot needs to be changed. Land is one of the big things I have been contemplating lately. Having said that, there wont be any meaningful food production in cities for anything but mental health reasons.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 months ago

What can I say except that I hope you're wrong about food production? The allotment system in the UK is a good example of this, and could be expanded on to good effect for the overall goal of more mutually supportive communities. Obviously we're not going to turn every city into homesteaders, but reducing the imbalances in our economic systems is worthwhile.

As for CHAZ/CHOP, I find it more useful not to judge it based on whether an impromptu short-lived anarchistic community can govern itself perfectly during that chaotic moment in time (especially as police had every reason to try and subvert it - after all, they did lose that precinct), but based on its vision and the hope it gave people. It only lasted a short while, but hopefully the memory of it can live on as a hope for what could be, and as a part of the dialogue between communities and state forces going forward.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago

Alright? That's the saddest "garden" I've ever seen!