it’s that we can’t trust that proton doesn’t store the encryption keys. Although it is still safer to go with them because if they did, they would either have given the mails to the govs, exposing them

You have trouble reading the room and what you are even saying. Do you not realise there are now multiple instances where Proton has snitched on activists? Riseup, Disroot and others have not. They do not store logs, wipe everything every day or week and are not marketing nonsense to people.

I have a problem with delusional people who cannot understand things, but are ready to argue about anything to win the internet debate at all costs. Yes I am aggressive about it, because the privacy community is a bunch of close minded self-proclaimed experts with nothing to show for it. I have seen this ad nauseam for years upon years now.

The fact that you really believe in the nonsense that Proton is better than something activists use with a lot of proven trust is sheer fucking insanity. On top of it, you trust the "well established" liars more than whatever you assume the other people or endeavours are. There is very less room to talk through with folks like you, who already are deep into the trench and refuse the handed down rope. I trust Proton barely more than Gmail or Outlook in that it does not scan my emails for ad/revenue purposes. If you think they have encryption, you are a joke.