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[–] [email protected] 17 points 6 months ago (1 children)

LBJ realized he'd made a giant mistake and hoped Humphrey could end the War. Nixon ran as a 'peace' candidate and made things much worse.

Trump's people would nuke the entire Middle East hoping to bring about the Rapture.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At what point does Biden realize he's made a giant mistake? You're lecturing us for not paying attention to history. Is Biden?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Turn it around.

Can you lay out a detailed plan showing Biden exactly what to do? Something that covers not just the Palestinians and the Israelis, but alos the iranians, the sryians, the russians, the Saudis, and all the other interested and highly armed parties in the region?

I have no idea how to restart a problem that's been formenting since 1948, do you?

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Stop shipping weapons to Israel.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 months ago (1 children)

If you think it's that simple, you probably believed Trump was going to get Mexico to pay for the Wall.

[–] [email protected] -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

You asked me a question and I answered it. Are you going to answer my question now?

At what point does Biden realize he’s made a giant mistake? You’re lecturing us for not paying attention to history. Is Biden?

Or hell, let me ask you. Given the choice between supporting Israel or Biden winning the election which would you choose?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You're very funny.

You act as if you have absolutely zero understanding of the complexities of the situation, and then demand that I ignore them, too.

Israel has nukes. Think they wouldn't use them if Iran invaded? Think they wouldn't throw a few at Mecca and Moscow as a farewell gift?

That's just one thing I've thought about. Biden probably has fifty worse scenarios from people who have studied the situation for years.

Pretending that just stopping is a realistic option is childish at best.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Are you upset that the choice you have in front of you is too reductive?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

In a word, yes.

I say that it's an incredibly complex situation that has baffled some of the finest political and diplomatic minds of the past 100 years.

You say it isn't complicated.

Just remember that Israel has nuclear weapons, and I for one would not like to see those weapons get used.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

In a word, yes.

Yes I agree it's upsetting when the choice placed in front of you is too reductive. I know exactly how you feel. But sometimes that's how life is. What's your choice?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Biden is dealing with a hugely complex issue that has baffled diplomats for over a century.

My choice is to trust Biden. The other option is to not vote for him and hope that Trump doesn't do more of the stuff he did last time; allow mobs to kill innocent people; destroy the economy; roll back enviromental laws; roll back LGBTQ+ laws; make abortion a punishable offence; and Trump would probably give Israel more nukes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 months ago

I don't trust Biden one bit. Still better than Trump, though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 months ago

Biden can't decide that

It was decided by a treaty like 75 years ago.

To overthrow it would take massive changes and breaking contracts. Doable, but not in the time frame you want.

It really isn't as simple as you think.