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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/15089465

Americans Are Open To Cheap Chinese Cars. That’s 'Scary' For The Rest Of The Auto Industry

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 5 months ago (5 children)

at this point I'm open to chinese world hegemony if it means I get a house, a union, and a carbon neutral economy

[–] [email protected] 19 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

China has aggressive eminent domain, no independent unions, just one state permitted “union,” and is still the world’s biggest polluter with emissions that are not on the decline.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Which makes it a pretty safe bet they wouldn't actually end up supporting China and this is just hyperbole.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

obviously I'll be throwing bombs if it actually happens

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Even Chinese people don’t want to be living in China. See Hong Kong and Taiwan.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

Taiwan is literally just not in China

[–] [email protected] 9 points 5 months ago

That's a pretty big "if"...

[–] [email protected] 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Union? In China unions are rare.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago

yeah I'd much rather see Europe do something cool

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

at this point I’m open to chinese world hegemony if it means I get a house, a union, and a carbon neutral economy

Have you looked at China today to see what each of those things looks like in China? Hint, its surprisingly worse in those 3 things than the USA, which is already a low bar.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

This did prompt me to check, and China's homeownership is higher and homelessness rates are lower than in the USA, as are their per-capita carbon emissions

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 months ago

and China’s homeownership is higher and homelessness rates are lower than in the USA,

Dive a bit deeper into what qualifies as a "home" in China. There are certainly fine homes and I'll even say the majority of homes would fall into this. However, 1/3 of China is rural. A portion of that have open fires and no running water, yet is still meeting the definition of a "home". I will say I do like China's housing subsidy to the poor, however.

as are their per-capita carbon emissions

That's one measure, and a valid one. However, if we're chasing solving carbon we need two things. Identify and solve the largest producers of CO2.

1 China 32.88%

2 United States of America 12.6%

3 India 6.99%

4 Russia 4.96%

Here's the USA's CO2, on the way down:

source

Here's China's CO2, on the way up:

source

[–] [email protected] -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

China, the source of the worlds slave labor, and this moron wants Chinese hegemony, jesus fucking christ

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 months ago

It's okay because they'll never have to know about the slave labor because it's illegal to report on once you're under their rule.