this post was submitted on 14 Jul 2023
69 points (93.7% liked)
Experienced Devs
3979 readers
1 users here now
A community for discussion amongst professional software developers.
Posts should be relevant to those well into their careers.
For those looking to break into the industry, are hustling for their first job, or have just started their career and are looking for advice, check out:
- Logo base by Delapouite under CC BY 3.0 with modifications to add a gradient
founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
I left University in the late 90's and got my first job based on the things I'd been messing about with in my spare time with the University's facilities/at home (Unix, Internet protocols, client/server arch, distributed computing, etc.) rather than anything I'd been taught. I learnt more in my first 3 months in work than 3 years of education.
Then the dot-com boom hit, and the number of applicants for any position surged - everyone was going into software development for the money. The whole team became involved in selecting candidates and being part of the interviewing process - it was a nightmare trying to give every person a fair chance. We had some good hires and some bad hires, but the bad hires became such a problem because we had to go through the recruitment mill again.
But we realised that the number one factor for whether they'd be a good hire or not was not education, but their own personal projects. That's what mattered. Doing this for fun was the key indicator of being good, and became the ONLY thing we looked for on CVs in the first pass. Doesn't matter if you have a 1st from Cambridge, if you don't demonstrate you have a passion for the subject, you don't get an interview. It was a huge success, and we built an amazing team and saved ourselves a ton of time during recruitment.
Those people still exist though, I see it all the time! But I think now that the "industry" has grown so much that in any given field there are less people (relatively) being attracted to it. For example, I can see that while back in the 80's I was drawn to the personal computer, then the 90's the internet - those things are staples of everyday life now. But I can see more modern young people being attracted to things like AI, drones, quantum computing, 3D printing, and so on as well.