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[–] [email protected] 12 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Giuliani was always a piece of shit. He just got some good press over 9/11

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

You have no idea man. In the ‘80s, NY was a mess. Every mom and pop and bodega was paying protection money. The mob ran the streets. Rudy took the mob down with RICO laws and changed the face of the city in a decade. I was there. It was transformative. Any New Yorker would’ve trusted him to babysit their kids back then.

Ironically, he’s now under RICO charges in Georgia. The guy hitched his wagon to Trump’s and went off the deep end. I wouldn’t trust him walking my neighbor’s dog today, and that thing never shuts up.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I know. It was so bad Billy Joel wrote a song about abandoning Manhattan and flooding it. That would have happened without Giuliani though, RICO laws made it possible. Rudy was positioned to give interviews and become the face of the work his office was doing. Same with 9/11, it would have played out exactly the same of anyone else had been mayor at the time. He turned "right time right place" into a career.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

The RICO act was around since the early ‘70s. Giuliani was the one who figured out how to leverage it against the mob. Gotta give credit where it’s due. Sure, he’s a lying scumbag now, but that doesn’t change what he once did.

I’m also not on the same page as you regarding 9/11. Giuliani had some great speeches, but he really stuck it to firefighters and first responders. They didn’t get the health benefit compensation he promised them until 2019 when Congress passed a support bill thanks to Jon Stewart.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I’m also not on the same page as you regarding 9/11. Giuliani had some great speeches, but he really stuck it to firefighters and first responders. Many of them are still going to court today to get health benefit compensation.

I'm not giving him credit, I'm saying he was in a position to grab it. It didn't really matter how he handled the situation he was going to look like a hero in the press.