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[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Both are shit but at least one of them grew up a little and stopped doing this shit

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Not a big student of modern history, are you?

"Srebrenica massacre, slaying of more than 7,000 Bosniak (Bosnian Muslim) boys and men, perpetrated by Bosnian Serb forces in Srebrenica, a town in eastern Bosnia and Herzegovina, in July 1995. In addition to the killings, more than 20,000 civilians were expelled from the area—a process known as ethnic cleansing. The massacre, which was the worst episode of mass murder within Europe since World War II" source

The christians were committing so many murders of non-christians, because they were non-christians, NATO intervened to protect the non-christians.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Linking to the serb / Bosnian war is kinda cheating.

That's an absolutely atrocious event, which indeed was caused by christians, no doubt. But that whole region was awash with every possible flavor of violence.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

It's not that religion got better, it became weaker. And at this point there a lot of people in the West who don't subscribe to it hard enough to ignore attrocities. It's important to know it's not individual faith, it's institution that kisses, sloppy style with corporations and governments and supports or even inspires their agenda. Islam in the East could be powerless just like christianity elsewhere if it wasn't married to power-hungry reactionary governments. And even buddhists, who has a white-as-a-bedsheet reputation in the West, did a genocide of muslims in Myanmar. At this point I believe even My Little Pony can become the proclaimed reason for genocide and torture if some congregation of power and force put it on as a mask. And it's a shame that most sceptics who aren't into that BS are less centralized, cooperative, than religious shmucks by their nature.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

It actually got better before it got weaker. All those Catholic institutions we tie to the bad parts about Christianity in mass culture (a-and in Sabatini books, et cetera) were actively and productively working against barbaric shit, also influencing legal practices in non-religious matters as a result.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I upvoted your opinion as a legit one, but I don't really agree with that. Even after christianity got somehow okay, we had these fellow christians massacre american natives and roping indians to cannons en masse as they were thought of as barbarians. Even in Iraq, Chechnya, Afganistan, there were still traces of this dehumanization not only by racism, but by religion too. At least that's what I've heard from soldiers who served in these places themselves. It's hard to rationally dissect religious hate from racism, but they usually go hand in hand now. We won't, hopefully, slay another thousand of white Yugoslavian people over it, but for brown persons it's an open question. Still, at least some progress.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

we had these fellow christians massacre american natives and roping indians to cannons en masse as they were thought of as barbarians.

Which Catholic clergy was formally protesting all the time, expressing horror and disgust in official documents etc. Islamic religious authorities are now, today, at best split on what ISIS was doing.

It’s hard to rationally dissect religious hate from racism, but they usually go hand in hand now.

Yes, it's just that among "brown people" non-Muslims are more often victimized by Muslims than vice versa.

I understand that in historically Christian societies people want to clear their own conscience first, and American Christian supporters of Israel are a good example of how it looks when they don't, but Islam is a bigger problem than Christianity.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 7 months ago

Comparatively, yes, even for themselves, but we had a bad time trying to meddle in their politics and are partially responsible for another wave of radical uprising.

Is it though a correct way to view everything muslim as bad and christianity as miles better than this? Giving christianity an unequal treatment is asking for some MAGA shitheads to overturn another handful of human rights. They are insane bigots who use religion as their tool too.

Yes, it's just that among "brown people" non-Muslims are more often victimized by Muslims than vice versa.

That's known, right. In my lovely country ch3chen forces even steal people on the streets if they are dare to speak up, if they don't want to marry a picked partner or god-forbid if they are gay. If it wasn't allowed by my own federal gov, they couldn't have stolen a poor girl from fucking Moscow that's not heard of for a year+ after that. But it's not even on ch3chens, the inaction and enabling of our own forces if what makes me angry the most, as with other governments exchanging political prisoners with insane states.