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[–] [email protected] 23 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The raw electricity usage is ~25 times lower for E-Bikes. And that is not counting in the 2 ton weight difference with all this steel, battery cells, electronics etc.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The lower weight and size also has significant external benefits, because roads need less maintenance and don't need to be as big (that means less taxes for the owning classes in the back).

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago

I'd imagine it's quite a bit fewer tire micro-plastics too.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

we talking about the "fourth power law" (damage to roadway is weight to the power of 4)?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (2 children)

The initial cost too. U can get an ebike for like 1500€ but u gotta pay like 60000€ or more for an electric car. Also insurance, maintainance, parking, etc

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I just read about an Chinese (maybe govt subsidised) EV for 15 000 USD. Even in EU you're starting to see 35k€ EVs

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Yeah, BYD is massively subsidized by the government, mainly to try to destroy the western EV market. I'm really on the fence on that one. On the one hand, I'd like our car Industry to be a bit more disruptive and come up with cheaper solutions (fuck SUVs, the German car Industry is just making huge luxury cars that are way too expensive, both capex and opex wise). On the other hand, I don't want Winny the Pooh gaining influence on the west.