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[–] [email protected] 17 points 7 months ago (5 children)

hahahaha tell that to nvidia users

[–] [email protected] 7 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Smart Nvidia users are ex Nvidia users

[–] [email protected] 5 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Financially smart Nvidia users are Nvidia users

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I don't get what you mean by that

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

GPU's are expensive. lots of people can't afford to ditch nvidia

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Ok, makes sense. I thought you meant that nvidia gpus were cheaper than amd ones, which is obviously not true.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

I think that may have been the case early into the Nvidia 30-series but now they seem closer in price and performance so I'm pretty sure my next card will be from AMD when I decide I need an upgrade.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (3 children)

Actually wait until the next de releases hit repos, all the nvidia problems just got solved

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What? Tell me more. Now! Please

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

https://9to5linux.com/developer-explains-why-explicit-sync-will-finally-solve-the-nvidia-wayland-issues

here's an article explaining the changes, that article was written before they were merged, but they're merged everywhere now except wlroots. That's coming soon too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ah yes, the next release will always solve all problems since 5 years.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

??? I have been following this for years and nobody I have seen has ever said that with nvidia on wayland

either way it has been tested and actually does so...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Then you didn't follow closely enough. Nvidia comes up with EGLStreams and Gnome and Plasma accept patches to support this: next release will fix all problems.

Nvidia driver supports GBM: next release will fix all problems.

Only explicit sync is missing but once adopted surely all problems will be fixed.

It's always one last feature that's missing for perfect Wayland support...🤦

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

Nobody thought eglstreams was a good idea or a solution, gbm fixed being able to use wayland at all, no devs were saying that would resolve all the issues. The issues are currently solved, you can test the changes yourself if you don't believe me, but this truly is the end

i'm not saying wait for the next release because they might solve it, I'm saying the current set of patches is confirmed to solve it.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Sorry, I won't test this myself because I'll never combine Nvidia with Linux for years to come but all the time it was promised that X11 fallback for Nvidia would no longer be needed and everytime it was followed up by countless bug reports that basic features aren't working.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

That's the difference between some randos promising it and the devs extensively testing it and confirming it works universally.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Those randos were Nvidia developers and DE developers making such statements towards distribution maintainers after they asked if removing the automatic X11 fallback for Nvidia GPUs is fine.

It's always "one last feature / Nvidia workaround until it's fine". The same thing since years. Surely this time everything is different.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

They were not. I'd need a source for that.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Obviously it won't be all of them but I too am very excited about not having to get lucky with my games flickering or not.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I'm a happy Nvidia user on Wayland. Xorg had a massive bug that forced me to try out Wayland it has been really nice and smooth. I was surprised, seeing all the comments. But I might've just gotten lucky.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I tried wayland with the newest nvidia driver on Arch and it was unusable and extremely unstable.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I'm somewhere in between. X11 doesn't work with linux-lts (arch) for me and Wayland stutters occasionally but not always. Usually it happens exclusively in games, some reliably, some when I switch windows and in some when I move around or increase game speed. But I'm excited for explicit sync

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

may 15 Arch users are going to be down loading the NoVideo Wayland Driver.