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A "Showerthought" is a simple term used to describe the thoughts that pop into your head while you're doing everyday things like taking a shower, driving, or just daydreaming. The best ones are thoughts that many people can relate to and they find something funny or interesting in regular stuff.

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Sort of similar to the Great Filter theory, but applied to time travel technology.

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[–] starman 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Maybe it's impossible to travel back in time?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If time travel is possible it'll probably be limited to the lifeline of the time machine itself. You cannot travel back in time to a point prior to the invention of the first time machine.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

GR predicts "closed time-like curves," but they require weird conditions (an infinitely dense and infinitely long rotating string) or negative energy, and you can only ever travel to the start of the loop at the earliest.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago

No that can't possibly be the reason

[–] [email protected] 4 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Time isn’t really a thing, right? It’s just the chain of cause and effect, tied inexorably with space. There is only ever the present, the ever-shifting now. The past is a remembered state, the future is merely possible states.

Cause and effect happens more slowly or quickly due to relativity, but it doesn’t go backwards.

(Note, I am not a physicist.)

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago

Location isn't really a thing right? It's just a chain of "over here" and "over there" tied inexorably with space. There is only ever "here", the place you occupy while things move around you. Behind is places you have been, forward is places you might be.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Reading that formed an interesting question in my (also non-physicist) mind:

If we can, at most, take advantage of relativity to slow down our own time frame, then time could just be our way to describe the pace of how space changes around us following simple causality.

But if, on the other hand, it is possible to move backwards through time, wouldn't the universe have to necessarily exist not only as a giant block of eternally changing 3D space, but as a giant block of 4D spacetime one could move around in? And would that mean predetermined past and future, or would that 4D block of spacetime change, too, advancing through meta-time, continually changing future and past of the universe?

ScienceClic has a cool video, stipulating that we live in 4D spacetime and are bound to always move forward at light speed. If we stand still in 3D space, we move forwards in time at light speed. If we accelerate in 3D space, we change out motion vector from only pointing forwards in time to pointing slightly sideways (up to completely sideways, i.e. time stops, if we were able to move at light speed). But there may be now way to do a 180 involving the time axis like we could do involving the other 3 axes.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Maybe they are afraid to come back because we are still savage cavemen and carewomen to them.