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Beeper is now available, no waitlist! (blog.beeper.com)

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Does the whole encryption/decryption thing still bother you if you self host?

I tried out the app, the value there is that it's ready to go straight away, though I took it all down again because my messages being unencrypted on someone else's server makes me uneasy. May end up self hosting it for that reason and not using anything closed source

[–] [email protected] 3 points 7 months ago

Somewhat. It's kind of a gradation:

3rd party servers, or closed source, no trust.
Self-hosting on a hosting provider... it's not my hardware, but maybe some trust.
OpenSource with non-reproducible builds, even self-hosted at home, little trust.
Local bridges, OpenSource, with reproducible builds, and a 3rd party audit, most trust.

All software can have bugs, and we've seen what cases like xz-util can bring, so I would rather have no decrypting bridges at all, particularly for sensitive information... but for random private chats, "mostly trusted" sounds like enough.

Public conversations (like this one) are fine going through random bridges, but I feel like bridging with E2EE networks, is subverting user expectations.