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Reposting some Google Docs from the other site which compiled spoilers about the remaster from PaizoCon, so we can discuss them here. I am not the author and take no credit for any of these.

Discord spoilers

Live writeup

Announcement compilation

Overall, I like most of the changes, and I'm interested to see how alignment removal plays out.

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[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Awesome, I appreciate you posting this.

I think the two biggest things for me are the rogue martial weapons (because they should have had that all along) and some of the class revamps. I know Champion is probably getting redone because of the alignment changes, but I felt like it was overall a pretty good class to start with. Oracle and witch, though, really needed some help, so I'm looking forward to those getting some changes.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I have a life oracle in my party (level 8) and while she can heal for a ton, it often feels like she doesn't have useful things to do. She also hasn't had to interact with her curse very much, but maybe I just need to give them harder encounters?

Either way, it seemed to me like there wasn't much advantage to playing the oracle over a cleric, so I'm looking forward to what happens in the remaster.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I've recently started a battle oracle in PFS, but that really seems like the only one that is viable. Ancestor sounds really cool, but the idea of having to roll flat checks every time I do something seems incredibly burdensome to the table. Many of the others also make me feel like they would impact the fun of other players as well.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really excited for Rowdy Rogue with martial weapons. Made one the other day and was disappointed in my best option being the longspear.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I just really hated coming across a cool rogue/thief/assassin-like weapon (like kukris or a kris) on another character and being like "This would be great for my rogue" and then checking and realizing he wasn't proficient.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

For me it was whips. They seemed like the ultimate Rogue weapon, but the Martial classification made it way too feat-intensive. I can't wait to play with one!

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

Oracle will likely see some extra changes due to the Focus Spell mini rework they mentioned. Overall I'm super hopeful this will go in a good direction. What was mentioned so far all seems very nice.