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Ambition once came with a promise: a home, a salary, progress and fulfilment. What happens when that promise is broken? Meet the women who are turning their backs on consumerism, materialism and burnout

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[–] [email protected] 82 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I think millennials and zoomer are just being open and honest about things that always happened. We love labels and with the Internet talks with other like-minded people. There have always been people who worked 9 to 5 at a job and prioritized stability over money. We are being open and bragging about it. We just want to break the hustle culture that was always a loud subset

For example my dad a peak boomer worked at the same company for his whole career and turned down "promotions" that gave a manager title with little more money. They have always been there

[–] [email protected] 89 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The problem is, you used to be able to comfortably live that life. Now if you stay at the same company, your wages won't increase at a rate to sustain your life style. Companies care way more about acquiring talent than retaining talent, so you need to move around to make enough money

[–] [email protected] 16 points 8 months ago

And this is why being part of a bargaining class/union is important, none of this making less than new hires doing the same thing, your wages go up with the cost of living so even if you don't get raises, you still don't fall behind inflation

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I know. But that was the equivalent of jumping every few years to a similar but slightly paying more role. Not grinding to get the biggest promotion and title as possible.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (2 children)

At some point, you end up wanting some stability and the constant jumping gets old. Perhaps you finally hit a target salary that makes you go "well I guess that's enough".

[–] [email protected] 8 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Except that you wont get eaises to that salary to maintain your current atandard of living. Getting a 2% annual raise with 4% annual inflation is an annual pay cut. They only way to maintain the current standard is to get a new job every few years, or just quit playing the game.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, but are you really going to dedicate 40 years of your life to having 20 jobs? At some point, you'll have to give that up.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

I'm not even 30 yet and I've had 10+. Granted my current gig pays a bit less than the last few, but it pays the bills and it's 9 days out of 10 a very chill time, but when it's shit, it's SHIT.

I will update my CV as many times as it takes to find a job that suits my lifestyle and temperament, however, I won't keep working at a job I hate just to pay the bills, I'll find another.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You can get stability through community and friendship. The idea that you need a big salary makes sense because of how we have been raised, to live independently in little units, and it's scary to switch to a less independent life, but it is possible.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think millennials and zoomer are just being open and honest about things that always happened.

This is partially true, but things are actually worse than they used to be in some ways and better in others. I think that, more than anything, the conditions have accelerated a bit more.

I was born in 1976. I remember managers being completely toxic assholes--that was just how it was. But, when I was a kid, there were still pensions--you worked 40 years for a company and they took care of you. I think that both of these things are gone--managers can't really get away with being as cruel as they used to, though I know that's out there. Also employees don't expect a graceful exit at the end of their career.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Millennials and gen z know things are worse, and that's why we don't feel like it's worth it to give everything to a company. We don't have to pretend because we know the employers know things are bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if you meant to say "millenials and gen z"?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago