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As the title reads, I really want to begin hosting my own email server again. I'm sick of the poor quality of the service providers out there. Damnit all I want/need is a reliable IMAP/SMTP provider. I spent 3 hours getting off of Hostinger and on to Zoho. I just hope Zoho won't suck. It's great for now but we'll see.

Is the prevailing advice still not to bother with self-hosting email?

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Is the prevailing advice still not to bother with self-hosting email?

From someone who never stopped: YES.

99.95% spam, and no amount of filters and training can do as good a job as Gmail (as much as I hate and would like to get away from Gmail)

I want to turn it off so bad, but fomo, that one email from that one person I knew 25 years ago who only has that email address ... fml.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

You can get a mailprovider that allows custom domain names for very little money. I use Mailbox.org and it works fine. Also used Protonmail previously which also works.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (2 children)

What are you doing to get spam? Somehow simple RBL check + pipelining block most of it for me.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah + spamassassin, I have probably two or three spam mails a YEAR that end up in my inbox.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, the address is over 20 years old... it's on many, MANY lists, lol.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mailcow includes rspamd which learns spam using bayes analysis. Just move messages to the junk folder and it learns, after a month or so of training I get very very little actual spam, and no false positives.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

I also use mailcow with rspamd and I have seen like 2 spam mails in 3 years. And even those were marked as suspicious.

Combined with aliases I don't really have to bother with spam or leaked addresses anymore.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I want to turn it off so bad, but fomo, that one email from that one person I knew 25 years ago who only has that email address … fml.

If you want to turn it off, can't you just use some free service to forward messages to your new address?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I actually had it running that way for a while but a couple/few/don't remember years ago Google started rejecting all the mail :-(

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

99.95% spam

lol may I ask what you have to do to get that amount of spam? I at most get one spam mail per month to my server and I have some addresses listed as contact information on my public websites.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Well, the address is over 20 years old... it's on many, MANY lists, lol.