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Recommendations for a video doorbell? (self.selfhosted)

submitted 7 months ago by Matty_r to c/[email protected]

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Hey all I'm looking for recommendations for a video doorbell that doesn't need an internet connection.

Preferably something that is WiFi and would work with Frigate?

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Questionable privacy/security practices: https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/30/23486753/anker-eufy-security-camera-cloud-private-encryption-authentication-storage

[–] [email protected] 8 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ahh got it. My search history says I read the follow up, but not the initial article.

https://www.theverge.com/23573362/anker-eufy-security-camera-answers-encryption

That's ridiculous and unsettling, especially that they claimed it wasn't possible initially. I wonder if they were not aware that it was possible or whether they were lying. I'm not sure which one is worse.

I have a eufy doorbell cam, and I'm genuinely very happy with it. Since it's not actually looking into my home I'm less concerned about this particular security issue. I hope they do better moving forward.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 7 months ago

wonder if they were not aware that it was possible or whether they were lying. I'm not sure which one is worse.

They knew it was possible,.although it obviously wasn't intentional.

The only way this can happen is if they hold copies of the keys used to encrypt/protrect your traffic, and can give them to anyone at any time. Or if there's no keys at all, and someone simply needs an ID to pull the right stream. Something like your password isn't required to make the key useful (or they're storing/using it in a reversible way). And anyone that compromises them can access whatever they want.

Unfortunately I dont know if anyone that does "cloud" camera stuff, including Reolink (and pretty much all of the other consumer camera makers) are any better here. I'm not sure that they're as bad, but I bet most are. Clearly providers like Ring are.