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So what's wrong with webp? Who is driving/opposing the adoption? (lemmy.ca)

submitted 7 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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It seems like either

I get a .webp file when I don't want it (downloading images)
I try to use a .webp format, but it isn't allowed (uploading images)

So who is trying to encourage people to use it, and who is trying to prevent adoption?

I'm constantly converting it with imagemagick and other tools

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Layman's suspicion: adoption is hard when nearly everyone and their uncle knows and supports gif/jpg/png. At least for most end consumers there's no major advantage to adopting early. And in such a scenario most people adopt when they are forced to because everyone else adopted. So it's a hen-egg problem.

Ideally when you introduce a new format you support both the old and new format concurrently over a long time to allow for a gradual transition. The major advantage of webp/avif is that they need less storage space for the same quality. However if you have to store everything in an extra format whilst also keeping the old ones you are completely reversing that storage advantage and now need even more storage volume than before.

As far as I can tell AVIF has much better prospects of being the future image format anyways. In the long run that is. Plus it's open source and not just a single tech giant behind it. Suffers from the same slow adoption rates though.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Jpeg XL should win, but Emperor Google disapproved since it isn't their format.

[–] CameronDev 1 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (1 children)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/JPEG_XL

It was mainly based on a combination of a proposal called PIK,[9] submitted by Google, and a proposal called FUIF[10] — itself based on FLIF — submitted by Cloudinary.

I dont know why Google is not supporting it, but it is their format.

Edit: removed insensitive comment.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Please do not use ADHD as a pejorative.

[–] CameronDev 4 points 7 months ago

You're right, my sincerest apologies.